bunch of kids from money and lawyer parents

that shit was being looked into within 18 seconds of the first story

So much hate in the beowolf.

Doesn't matter, as far as this discussion goes. My whole point was that places with lower gun control laws also have problems with illegal guns, contrary to what EndlessSky posted.

That's why it would be important for it to be a voluntary and non-coercive program. IE not only being opt-in only, but having legal statutes barring any kinds of deprivation of rights for those who don't opt-in. They wouldn't be able to say 'gun chip areas only'.
And its also a good reason for it to be customizable chips. Where you'd be able to choose which features to select. Only get a tracking chip if that's what you want. You could have an inert RFID chip or a full GPS black box real-time tracker like in wildlife.
It would also probably be important for the program to stress privacy being maintained, like encrypted data accessible only using the chip like a dongle- not a searchable database. On one hand, that wouldn't be any guarantee at all against the NSA snooping that data when its being entered into the system, which they almost certainly would. But at least it would give a degree of privacy to those who opt-in and prevent low scale abuse like we have in the vehicle license plate system where operators can abuse it.

I feel like as long as its feature rich, taxpayer subsidized and provides services gun-owners actually would want, like anti-theft, assisting law enforcement in a crisis, automatically alerting cops when fired in self defense, etc- there would be plenty of people who would sign up for it. The NRA always screams very loudly about responsible gun owners and good guys with guns. If the chips actually made responsible gun ownership safer and more effective, and the only reason to opt-out is nebulous fears of loss of privacy- then the militiamen and libertarian nutters could opt-out and the regular folks could opt-in.

I just think that fears of a creeping loss of privacy in the long run are well justified and not "nebulous" at all.

Race wars and class wars are the only thing they have left. We should count ourselves lucky

Does accurately stating that people with resources and surrounded by careers in the legal system are more likely than those that don't trigger the right now too?

Its something that Steve King would say.



Lefties tend to ignore per capita statistics because you can't bribe voters if the concepts in your rhetoric are too complex.