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Jan 22 2019 12:53pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2019 11:51am)
I'm more interested in the irony than the agenda


did you get Kathy Griffin's twitter shut down yet

something positive needs to come from this

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Jan 22 2019 12:55pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Jan 22 2019 12:52pm)
Giving teachers guns is protecting them?


the school was closed because of death threats to the children, their families, the school, etc.

we've seen whackos go off after stories like this, shooting up churches, shooting up softball games, etc.

i'm not saying that i support arming the teachers, but it's silly to suggest they aren't in danger currently and it's silly to suggest with training that a gun makes you less safe in defending yourself from a school shooter.

im always over here laughing when people suggest that teachers will be forced to carry guns, or that they'll not be given training. those are both false narratives the anti-gun lobby came up with and hasn't let go of, even tho they're not worth a dry fart in reality.

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did you get Kathy Griffin's twitter shut down yet

something positive needs to come from this


a wrinkly old agitator was outed, positive realized.

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Jan 22 2019 12:56pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Jan 22 2019 02:53pm)
di you get Kathy Griffin's twitter shut down yet

something positive needs to come from this


Exposure of how pathetic this social justice shit is getting is the positive.

A white man, a native and a black man walk into a bar.

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Jan 22 2019 12:57pm
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the school was closed because of death threats to the children, their families, the school, etc.

we've seen whackos go off after stories like this, shooting up churches, shooting up softball games, etc.

i'm not saying that i support arming the teachers, but it's silly to suggest they aren't in danger currently and it's silly to suggest with training that a gun makes you less safe in defending yourself from a school shooter.

im always over here laughing when people suggest that teachers will be forced to carry guns, or that they'll not be given training. those are both false narratives the anti-gun lobby came up with and hasn't let go of, even tho they're not worth a dry fart in reality.


They're worth being kept from any harm caused by what happened. I think we agree there are better methods than arming teachers.
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Jan 22 2019 01:03pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Jan 22 2019 12:57pm)
They're worth being kept from any harm caused by what happened. I think we agree there are better methods than arming teachers.


to be quite frank with you the only fool proof method there is are retrofitting every single classroom door with a bullet proof locked from the inside door. which would cost billions in the US. and will never happen.

Parkland had an armed guard, look how well he did.

just curious on your thoughts tho, if you put a gun (hypothetically) in every classroom in america, which group would be larger "# of kids shot/killed by accidents in the classroom" vs "# of kids saved and not shot/killed by a school shooter"?
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Jan 22 2019 01:04pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 22 2019 12:55pm)
the school was closed because of death threats to the children, their families, the school, etc.

we've seen whackos go off after stories like this, shooting up churches, shooting up softball games, etc.

i'm not saying that i support arming the teachers, but it's silly to suggest they aren't in danger currently and it's silly to suggest with training that a gun makes you less safe in defending yourself from a school shooter.

im always over here laughing when people suggest that teachers will be forced to carry guns, or that they'll not be given training. those are both false narratives the anti-gun lobby came up with and hasn't let go of, even tho they're not worth a dry fart in reality.



a wrinkly old agitator was outed, positive realized.


I just think its funny that when you follow the logic- these children are at a significant enough threat of being attacked by someone politically radicalized that they needed to shut down the school. They need to have extra security on hand when they re-open, and it makes a valid argument for their teachers to arm themselves because of the imminent risk. And that's all so deliciously ironic because the people they're afraid of, are themselves probably school gun control advocates due to the almost uniformly divided partisan political climate. Its not the old tired argument of guns to protect against school shooters, its guns to protect against politically motivated attackers, attackers who's politics say there shouldn't be guns in school. I'm sure if someone went through a list of twitter accounts that were calling for death/violence/threats against these children and cross referenced that list with accounts that proudly championed the march for our lives and david hogg and screamed 'think of the children' and attacked anyone who criticized the parkland activists- it would come out quite similar, wouldn't it?

Its that irony that I appreciate.

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I just think its funny that when you follow the logic- these children are at a significant enough threat of being attacked by someone politically radicalized that they needed to shut down the school. They need to have extra security on hand when they re-open, and it makes a valid argument for their teachers to arm themselves because of the imminent risk. And that's all so deliciously ironic because the people they're afraid of, are themselves probably school gun control advocates due to the almost uniformly divided partisan political climate. Its not the old tired argument of guns to protect against school shooters, its guns to protect against politically motivated attackers, attackers who politics say there shouldn't be guns in school. I'm sure if someone went through a list of twitter accounts that were calling for death/violence/threats against these children and cross referenced that list with accounts that proudly championed the march for our lives and david hogg and screamed 'think of the children' and attacked anyone who criticized the parkland activists- it would come out quite similar, wouldn't it?

Its that irony that I appreciate.


yes the irony is delicious. i goes beyond hypocrisy into a much darker place
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to be quite frank with you the only fool proof method there is are retrofitting every single classroom door with a bullet proof locked from the inside door. which would cost billions in the US. and will never happen.

Parkland had an armed guard, look how well he did.

just curious on your thoughts tho, if you put a gun (hypothetically) in every classroom in america, which group would be larger "# of kids shot/killed by accidents in the classroom" vs "# of kids saved and not shot/killed by a school shooter"?


^^, option 1.

Would you go as far as stretching that argument country wide?

Wanna see how far I can push this one :P

Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 22 2019 08:09pm)
no need


my bad, late edit.



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Jan 22 2019 01:07pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2019 07:04pm)
I just think its funny that when you follow the logic- these children are at a significant enough threat of being attacked by someone politically radicalized that they needed to shut down the school. They need to have extra security on hand when they re-open, and it makes a valid argument for their teachers to arm themselves because of the imminent risk. And that's all so deliciously ironic because the people they're afraid of, are themselves probably school gun control advocates due to the almost uniformly divided partisan political climate. Its not the old tired argument of guns to protect against school shooters, its guns to protect against politically motivated attackers, attackers who's politics say there shouldn't be guns in school. I'm sure if someone went through a list of twitter accounts that were calling for death/violence/threats against these children and cross referenced that list with accounts that proudly championed the march for our lives and david hogg and screamed 'think of the children' and attacked anyone who criticized the parkland activists- it would come out quite similar, wouldn't it?

Its that irony that I appreciate.


Who's a programmer? I want factual confirmation of this obvious point.
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Jan 22 2019 01:09pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Jan 22 2019 01:06pm)
^^, option 2.

Would you go as far as stretching that argument country wide?

Wanna see how far I can push this one :P


no need, this is a private school.

in any case, as a libertarian, im in favor of letting each state 100% mandate it's own educational platform and its own educational/school laws. so i could only answer for wisconsin, in which i would be 100% ok with teachers arming themselves after a large amount of school shooter specific training with guns that have something like a smartgun safety.

as to the option 1 vs 2 i dont have a conclusive answer, was just wondering your thoughts.

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