Quote (thesnipa @ 13 Dec 2018 00:02)

i think the polls are silly and actually represent "acceptance" rather than "support", also polarization means that people answer polls knowing they can and will be weaponized against Trump. so for the party (or more accurately to not aid the dems) they check yes. these arent complex polls where they lay out Trump's platform and specific policy, they're binary.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 12 2018 08:29pm)

to make sure I understand you correctly: when polled, most registered republicans say that they approve of the job trump is doing. your argument is that a lot of them actually dont approve of his actions and only choose this answer out of partisan loyalty, right?

so... theory A is that people say they approve of the job he's doing because they actually like the job he's doing, as hard to believe as this might be for some. :unsure: :o
theory B is that these people dont like what he's doing, but lie to defend him when polled so that the media doesnt get to paint the guy (whose actions they dont like anyway) in a negative light. :wacko:

I mean... what you say is not impossible, and there are certainly a few such cases of never-trumper-gop-loyalists. But, sorry, I'll go with theory A and assume that the clear majority of those republicans saying they approve of his job really mean it.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 12 2018 05:29pm)

to make sure I understand you correctly: when polled, most registered republicans say that they approve of the job trump is doing. your argument is that a lot of them actually dont approve of his actions and only choose this answer out of partisan loyalty, right?

so... theory A is that people say they approve of the job he's doing because they actually like the job he's doing, as hard to believe as this might be for some. :unsure: :o
theory B is that these people dont like what he's doing, but lie to defend him when polled so that the media doesnt get to paint the guy (whose actions they dont like anyway) in a negative light. :wacko:

I mean... what you say is not impossible, and there are certainly a few such cases of never-trumper-gop-loyalists. But, sorry, I'll go with theory A and assume that the clear majority of those republicans saying they approve of his job really mean it.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Dec 13 2018 04:23am)

This. I don't know why anyone would want to allow Republicans to divorce themselves from the Trump train. You all deserve the reputation you are building for yourselves. No cum dodging allowed.

Quote (HeLiCaL @ Dec 12 2018 07:35pm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlMIyae9-ZU

Quote (inkanddagger @ Dec 13 2018 04:36am)

Thinking liberals are the left is another great example of conservative stupidity and ignorance.

Quote (HeLiCaL @ Dec 12 2018 07:38pm)

except theres nothing but authoritarian brownshirts in the video seeking power through violence

Quote (inkanddagger @ 13 Dec 2018 03:36)

Thinking liberals are the left is another great example of conservative stupidity and ignorance.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 12 2018 07:45pm)

While true in a global and/or historical framework, these two things are very much synonymous in the United States.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 12 2018 06:29pm)

to make sure I understand you correctly: when polled, most registered republicans say that they approve of the job trump is doing. your argument is that a lot of them actually dont approve of his actions and only choose this answer out of partisan loyalty, right?

so... theory A is that people say they approve of the job he's doing because they actually like the job he's doing, as hard to believe as this might be for some. :unsure: :o
theory B is that these people dont like what he's doing, but lie to defend him when polled so that the media doesnt get to paint the guy (whose actions they dont like anyway) in a negative light. :wacko:

I mean... what you say is not impossible, and there are certainly a few such cases of never-trumper-gop-loyalists. But, sorry, I'll go with theory A and assume that the clear majority of those republicans saying they approve of his job really mean it.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 12 2018 08:12pm)

He also doesnt realize the survey works the same for the converse opinion as well, balancing it out according to probability...