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Jan 21 2019 09:59am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Jan 21 2019 08:48am)
Phillips least to blame lmao

an idiot that is senile enough NOT TO HEAR RACIST & HOMOPHOBIC SLUR SCREAMS COMING FROM BLACK HATEGROUP thats located few meters from him (they areliterally identifiied as a hategroup by leftistly biased SPLC)

ears not working - confirmed, only eyes left. What do we see Mr. Phillips? A pool of white kids? Must be racist. BATTLE SHOUT ENGAGE

most least to blame deaf racist on the planet


If he were senile that continues to make the point I've made the entire time

Show some respect. Extend a hand. Offer an embrace.

They want to "make america great again"? Start with compassion for an elderly man that is obviously not a threat.

Which way are you going to run with it kid? is he senile deaf old man? is he a radical old man with a drum and a far left agenda? is he a vicious racist against white kids?

or are we just going with all so you can continue to be the same poison that you think you are fighting on the other side of the coin?
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Jan 21 2019 10:23am
Quote (Beowulf @ Jan 21 2019 05:59pm)
Show some respect. Extend a hand. Offer an embrace.

They want to "make america great again"? Start with compassion for an elderly man that is obviously not a threat.

Which way are you going to run with it kid? is he senile deaf old man? is he a radical old man with a drum and a far left agenda? is he a vicious racist against white kids?

or are we just going with all so you can continue to be the same poison that you think you are fighting on the other side of the coin?


Sadly, the only ones who need a hand extended to them at the moment - are the VICTIMS of Mr. Phillips.

Mr. Phillips was the equivalent of a drunk driver on the road, proved to be a danger to innocents surrounding him.

He himself emerged from the situation of his own creation perfectly fine.

Infact, Mr. Phillips is a RACIST on 2 counts, not just one:
1st count obviously - racist for linking white skin color with malice, without knowing details of the situation arround him.
2nd count - he identified evidently empowered blacks to be desperate victims, which shows in his eyes blacks are inferior and unable to be anything but a victim.

"making America great" means putting america first to create more opportunity for its citizens. It has nothing to do with magically absolving Mr. Phillips of the blame he deserved by performing his drive-by.
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Jan 21 2019 10:34am
Quote (Beowulf @ Jan 21 2019 09:59am)
Show some respect.


They sang and clapped along to his song.

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Extend a hand. Offer an embrace.


He was banging a drum and singing nonstop. How would you propose they do that?

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They want to "make america great again"? Start with compassion for an elderly man that is obviously not a threat.


What is supposed to require compassion here? They thought he was doing some kind of cultural display, so they awkwardly played along to it like a reasonable group of kids would. It clearly wasn't something to sit idle and stony-faced to, because he approached them while they were in the middle of school cheers. A few kids got too exuberant in acting along and did some non-politically-correct whooping and tomahawk motions but so what? They're kids. We don't need to anal probe them and examine their colons for any traces of failure to conform to the PC code.

There was a group of dozens of high school teenagers who were on the receiving end of excessive bigoted abuse in public by adults for an hour straight, and none of the group ever reacted hostilely to the aggressors to any substantial degree. They reacted to provocation and fighting words and a guy calling their black friend a nigger and them crackers and incest babies by just defending each other and drowning him out with group cheers. They reacted to a group of natives on a spectrum from vaguely threatening to screaming racist abuse- by clapping along with the song awkwardly and patiently putting up with his music for 5 minutes.

The kids don't carry any blame in this story. The black israelites obviously do. But the native guy non-obviously carries the blame. Because even if his intentions were good like he claims, he was profoundly ignorant and prejudicial, and his biased worldview led him to confront the 'wrong' group of people and to assume the worst about them without bothering to read the situation first. And ignorance is no excuse. He deserves his blame.
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Jan 21 2019 11:36am
I changed my mind
I hadn't actually bothered to read/listen to what Philips had to say

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“It was getting ugly, and I was thinking, ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,” Phillips told Washington Post. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

Phillips told the Detroit Free Press that he had seen the white Catholic students “attacking these four black individuals.”

“There was that moment when I realized I’ve put myself between beast and prey,” he told the newspaper. “These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey, and I stood in between them and so they needed their pounds of flesh and they were looking at me for that.”


naw, fuck him, he was straight up lying. That wasn't some misunderstanding / misreading of the situation. He consciously chose to smear these kids.
Watching the video, there's no way he could possibly have felt like he was 'blocked' or in an 'ugly' situation. He walked right into it, he walked right up to the kid and banged the drum in his face. He could have turned around and left at any moment, and the characterization of "beast and prey" is utterly absurd. That's not the words of someone who just stumbled in and made a wrong snap judgment call, that's pure bullshit. He wasn't trying to 'finish a song' and nobody was blocking his retreat, he had to go far out of his way to approach them.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jan 21 2019 11:37am
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Jan 21 2019 11:58am
Love it. Instant polarization.

White guy, maga hat, black people and natives

-White guy is racist bigot.

Turns out not to be.

-He should have been helping the old person, old people do no wrong.

Didn't provoke or say anything offensive.

-HE'S A FUCKIN WHITE MALE.
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I changed my mind
I hadn't actually bothered to read/listen to what Philips had to say

naw, fuck him, he was straight up lying. That wasn't some misunderstanding / misreading of the situation. He consciously chose to smear these kids.
Watching the video, there's no way he could possibly have felt like he was 'blocked' or in an 'ugly' situation. He walked right into it, he walked right up to the kid and banged the drum in his face. He could have turned around and left at any moment, and the characterization of "beast and prey" is utterly absurd. That's not the words of someone who just stumbled in and made a wrong snap judgment call, that's pure bullshit. He wasn't trying to 'finish a song' and nobody was blocking his retreat, he had to go far out of his way to approach them.


Yep.

The number of usually reasonable media people on Twitter who are doubling down on the false story is astounding. Any time a story involves racial tensions, liberals just get way too emotional and can't be the least bit objective.
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Jan 21 2019 12:08pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 21 2019 06:36pm)
I changed my mind
I hadn't actually bothered to read/listen to what Philips had to say



naw, fuck him, he was straight up lying. That wasn't some misunderstanding / misreading of the situation. He consciously chose to smear these kids.
Watching the video, there's no way he could possibly have felt like he was 'blocked' or in an 'ugly' situation. He walked right into it, he walked right up to the kid and banged the drum in his face. He could have turned around and left at any moment, and the characterization of "beast and prey" is utterly absurd. That's not the words of someone who just stumbled in and made a wrong snap judgment call, that's pure bullshit. He wasn't trying to 'finish a song' and nobody was blocking his retreat, he had to go far out of his way to approach them.


That was a part in our article as well, it being a publicity stunt. With a camera blazing in, the camera man trying to troll, being provocative, laughing while doing it, makes it seem so. Dunno if you've seen the vid of Natan approaching the more timid member of the group from the right angle. That vid doesn't bode well for the probable cause of looking for publicity. However the reason for doing so, making the snap decision to engage this group for media attention, does have a high chance of Natan having preconceptions of a MAGA cap group, gathering on a Native American event. I can somewhat understand why, as Trump is the opposite of having an inclusive society for everyone, and the cap stands for supporting the vision of the current government.

I'd say that it's gonna be a valuable lesson for Natan to not judge too soon.. Probably a good one for us all at this time. And yes, the kids seems like good kids, meaning no harm, actually laughed at some of the interations and wasted to much time on this clickbait.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Jan 21 2019 12:33pm
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That was a part in our article as well, it being a publicity stunt. With a camera blazing in, the camera man trying to troll, being provocative, laughing while doing it, makes it seem so. Dunno if you've seen the vid of Natan approaching the more timid member of the group from the right angle. That vid doesn't bode well for the probable cause of looking for publicity. However the reason for doing so, making the snap decision to engage this group for media attention, does have a high chance of Natan having preconceptions of a MAGA cap group, gathering on a Native American event. I can somewhat understand why, as Trump is the opposite of having an inclusive society for everyone, and the cap stand for supporting the vision of the current government.

I'd say that it's gonna be a valuable lesson for Natan to not judge too soon.. Probably a good one for us all at this time.


Source?
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Jan 21 2019 12:11pm
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Source?


https://nos.nl/artikel/2268194-commotie-over-treiteren-vietnamveteraan-van-indiaanse-afkomst.html


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