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Oct 19 2023 08:41am
Quote (fender @ Oct 19 2023 05:14pm)
ITT: "if you don't have a detailed military and intelligence plan that describes exactly how the IDF could eliminate hamas without any civilian casualties, you're not allowed to say that the indiscriminate bombing of residential areas, the cutting of water and electricity to literally everyone, the mass dislocation of hundreds of thousands of destitute vulnerable people, are NOT 'targeted' measures to defeat hamas, but actions that predictably lead to an already staggering death toll amongst civilians."

it's the whole "you're not allowed to have an opinion if you don't lived there - unless you happen to agree with me" angle of trying to silence criticism of OBVIOUS cruelty against civilians.

how about this: if you actually consider yourself the "non-terrorist, civilised" side, then YOU explain how your actions are not just the apparent retaliatory terror attacks they seem to be, but actually specifically designed actions to mostly eliminate terrorist. which measures did you undertake to actually prevent civilian casualties and suffering? because it sure as hell does NOT look like it's working, and you created a pile of innocent bodies that easily dwarfs that of the "worst attack on jewish people since the holocaust"...

it's funny how the mossad was able to hunt down resourceful nazi war criminals decades after they disappeared to locations all over the world, how they were able to assassinate the alleged planners of the munich '72 terror attacks, how they can eliminate high ranking generals within hostile countries, without making much of a fuss - yet in order to eliminate some malnourished radicals right on their doorstep, in a small area of land whose borders israel controls directly, they simply can't do better than slaughtering thousands of innocent civilians in order to achieve their alleged goal?
how little common sense, how little intellectual honesty, and how little regard for innocent lives do you have to have in order to buy into that stupid narrative and try to silence criticism of such cruelty?

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don't play dumb. i'm talking about him deliberately propping up hamas in order to prevent more moderate voices from leading gaza. his disgusting calculation of accepting the odd attack in order to maintain support for the illegal occupation and apartheid policies. if you're actually an israeli, you know exactly what i'm talking about.

oh, and nice dodge regarding all the israeli terrorists, guess you're just fine with them for some mysterious reason...

it's really funny how almost every single one of you turned out to be extremist radicals yourselves, one openly calling for the genocide of the lebanese, you wishing death to people who disagree with you online... literally just the other side of the coin of hamas terrorists...


Gaza strip elected Hamas by majority in 2006, their political opponent was Fatah
in 2007 Hamas beheaded most of them to prevent them from being elected ever again and took control of the strip.
Ive no idea what are you referring to, but no prime minister ever here promoted or supported hamas, we knew long time ago how cruel and heartless they are.

I do not dodge anything, I dont know any Israeli terror organization lol, we have IDF and as i said, most moral and humanic army in the world. facts.

you blaming us on killing babys and women?
Blame hamas for using them as human shield.
while also, just a week ago you've seen hamas taking babies as hostages, freaking 6 months old babies!

I do not wish death to people who disagree with me, you can try and draw things the way it is convinient for you... doesnt mean its true. I condemn terrorists.
there is no place here for provoking or nice wording for "I wish your country would be gone" in this forum, and if you were just to yourself, you would've challange the other guy and not me :)
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Oct 19 2023 08:42am
Radical islam is the cancer of this world, I really hope for our world to be cured.

facts: Not every muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is muslim.


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Oct 19 2023 08:43am
look at the absolute morons advocating for the exact same approach that worked so flawlessly for the last couple of decades - just even harsher now, because that surely will make the difference that will prevent any future attacks.

let's just double and triple down on deliberately violating the human rights and freedom of millions, because we bought into the idiotic idea that making everyone hate us, but hoping to stay ahead of the curve in terms of military power, largely relying on a foreign nation's taxpayers, is a sustainable long term solution.

the mental gymnastics our resident apartheid proponents go through, in order to justify the illegal occupation and the indiscriminate slaughtering of brown children, are truly mind-blowing...
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Oct 19 2023 08:46am
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Gaza strip elected Hamas by majority in 2006, their political opponent was Fatah
in 2007 Hamas beheaded most of them to prevent them from being elected ever again and took control of the strip.
Ive no idea what are you referring to, but no prime minister ever here promoted or supported hamas, we knew long time ago how cruel and heartless they are.

I do not dodge anything, I dont know any Israeli terror organization lol, we have IDF and as i said, most moral and humanic army in the world. facts.

you blaming us on killing babys and women?
Blame hamas for using them as human shield.
while also, just a week ago you've seen hamas taking babies as hostages, freaking 6 months old babies!

I do not wish death to people who disagree with me, you can try and draw things the way it is convinient for you... doesnt mean its true. I condemn terrorists.
there is no place here for provoking or nice wording for "I wish your country would be gone" in this forum, and if you were just to yourself, you would've challange the other guy and not me :)


hamas and fatah are the entire spectrum, but some people still want to tell us that israel is just getting attacked by a handful of radicals :rofl:
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Oct 19 2023 08:47am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 19 2023 09:30am)
The greatest irony to me is that for peace to ensue Gaza must become an open air prison in truth, not just name. it needs to be locked down from border to sea with full time observation. full occupation is the only way, im just ready for the far lefties to call that too a line too far crossed.


Without this getting circular, I don’t think that will happen to the degree if there is a reasonable good faith player acting alongside, like a Saudi backed PA. Netanyahu has, over the course of our lifetimes, shown a cold shoulder to legitimate diplomacy so this would require an adjustment to begin with.

This would also reignite Abraham accords to get done

Some people will cry it’s too much. Some people will also cry that this isn’t aggressive enough and shouldn’t trust any brownskins. Ignore the noise and make the most rational decisions.






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Oct 19 2023 08:48am
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Yes tell it to fender

Quote (fender @ 18 Oct 2023 22:04)
posted by your fellow genocide proponent earlier:


I never in my entire life targeted civilians.
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Oct 19 2023 08:49am
Quote (Bazi @ 19 Oct 2023 17:47)
Without this getting circular, I don’t think that will happen to the degree if there is a reasonable good faith player acting alongside, like a Saudi backed PA. Netanyahu has, over the course of our lifetimes, shown a cold shoulder to legitimate diplomacy so this would require an adjustment to begin with.

This would also reignite Abraham accords to get done

Some people will cry it’s too much. Some people will also cry that this isn’t aggressive enough and shouldn’t trust any brownskins. Ignore the noise and make the most rational decisions.


The most rational decision is to get in and uproot those sick bastards
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Oct 19 2023 08:50am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 19 Oct 2023 13:18)
Who has "categorically denied that any foreign conflicts are ever worth taking sides in"?

Those who assert that anyone advocating for US involvement in the middle east conflict, in ukraine, in taiwain or korea in any way shape or form are all "neocon warmongers on the same level as GWB". There's a lot of ground between strict isolationism and actual neocon warmongering.

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Why do boots on the ground matter? What do you think happens if Israel gets itself into a regional war? You think the US is going to say "good luck" and send their carriers home?

No, of course not. But in terms of public perception, there's a big difference between American boots on the ground in the ME and just firing some missiles at Hezbollah positions.

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Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 19 2023 09:49am)
The most rational decision is to get in and uproot those sick bastards


Uproot with who ?
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Oct 19 2023 08:51am
Quote (fender @ 19 Oct 2023 17:43)
look at the absolute morons advocating for the exact same approach that worked so flawlessly for the last couple of decades - just even harsher now, because that surely will make the difference that will prevent any future attacks.

let's just double and triple down on deliberately violating the human rights and freedom of millions, because we bought into the idiotic idea that making everyone hate us, but hoping to stay ahead of the curve in terms of military power, largely relying on a foreign nation's taxpayers, is a sustainable long term solution.

the mental gymnastics our resident apartheid proponents go through, in order to justify the illegal occupation and the indiscriminate slaughtering of brown children, are truly mind-blowing...


The old approach was to retaliate
Now we are about to wreck havok this is the end of Hamas
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