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Quote (ChrisKz @ 18 Jan 2019 22:09)
Do these people not have any savings from their cushiony gov jobs?



Cushiony..? HAH
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 18 2019 02:48pm)
better would depend.

you'd need to calculate what % of each subgroup is "poor" and then find out the difference in creating opportunities in total by targeting each experimental group.

for some programs it would for sure be more effective to target "the poor" to helps the most poor people, and for some it's better to target blacks, who are largely poor, to help the most poor people, who also all happen to be black.

the only reason to disagree would be if you think it's unfair to help only poor blacks really, which means you care more about skin color than poverty, if more poor are helped overall.

but when you look at the % success rate of programs targeted generally at the poor, they're terrible. compared to specific targeted projects, such as a single state targeting black female students with STEM major scholarships. the % success rate is an order of magnitude higher.


Yeah, handouts aren't really a long-term solution, which is why they fail. Being stuck in a poor state isn't always due to lack of opportunity (though, single parent households, trends in culture/ideology, education, etc. are going to have an impact)

Also, the student would be more of a correlation wouldn't it? Not necessarily a causation. I would think that student would naturally be more successful. I think that student already had more of a clear focus and directory versus someone that wasn't in that position.

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Their soldiers are trained like fucking robots so it's not a big change if tomorrow their orders are given by an AI. Let them in the middle of the target please; there's some kind of cannibals right there too, and they are probably doing worse.

And thanks Himalaya for its existence :lol:
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Quote (GLYC123 @ Jan 18 2019 10:26pm)
Yeah, handouts aren't really a long-term solution, which is why they fail. Being stuck in a poor state isn't always due to lack of opportunity (though, single parent households, trends in culture/ideology, education, etc. are going to have an impact)

Also, the student would be more of a correlation wouldn't it? Not necessarily a causation. I would think that student would naturally be more successful. I think that student already had more of a clear focus and directory versus someone that wasn't in that position.


quality response, i'd answer yes, no, and maybe to the "is it a correlation" aspect.

in the context of "helping blacks" it's a correlation, because those applying for scholarships are already predisposed for a higher success rate than general population.

in the context of broad programs versus specific programs i'd say no. if the discussion is "help all poor vs try to help blacks" we can use this as data that the more specified you get the more your success rate goes up, which was my general point. And that with hte same pool of resources more of less you can fund specified programs versus large scale programs like welfare or food stamps.

and in the last context it's a bit of a maybe, because these young black women likely still have testing scores below their white peers, but well above their black peers. they also may not have the socioeconomic status to go to school without a scholarship, although with Pell grants that's almost not worth mentioning.
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