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Its far worse than that. No one working at CNN voted for Trump. If they did they would be fired.


fake news

there are probably plenty at the top end that play the part and vote for the Republicans for rich person tax reasons just like many others in media and entertainment
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Dec 4 2018 10:28am
Quote (EndlessSky @ 4 Dec 2018 17:19)
Its far worse than that. No one working at CNN voted for Trump. If they did they would be fired.


no facts, just feelings.
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Dec 4 2018 11:12am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 4 2018 11:19am)
Its far worse than that. No one working at CNN voted for Trump. If they did they would be fired.


CNN gets criticized all the time by liberals for always having the Trump point of view on panels.
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Dec 4 2018 11:15am
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 4 2018 01:12pm)
CNN gets criticized all the time by liberals for always having the Trump point of view on panels.


Quote (fender @ Dec 4 2018 12:28pm)
no facts, just feelings.


:rofl:

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fake news

there are probably plenty at the top end that play the part and vote for the Republicans for rich person tax reasons just like many others in media and entertainment


What are the percent political donation breakdowns?

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Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 4 2018 12:15pm)
:rofl:


If you listened to contrary points of view this wouldn't come as a surprise to you. Then again, none of you actually watch CNN, just clips out of context from Mark Dice or Sean Hannity.
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Dec 4 2018 11:33am
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 4 2018 11:23am)
If you listened to contrary points of view this wouldn't come as a surprise to you. Then again, none of you actually watch CNN, just clips out of context from Mark Dice or Sean Hannity.


hate to do it but i award one Pard point to endless. your best proof for CNN not being entirely biased was that loony lefties want to deplatform pundits who are put there with a Trumpian point of view.

CNN needs to host a right winged show to regain credibility as fair and balanced, it really comes down to the fact that literally every host has carbon copy opinion. the best they can do to moderate their leftist opinion is to invite Trump pundits on to state confusedly at when they counter with basic right winged ideology.

CNN is biased, AND they do OK coverage on most stuff. but from a starting point they're biased af, literally every single host. at least MSNBC has the whole Morning Joe never-trumper conservative bigshot host. Hell even Fox News has a few hosts that are imo never trumpers. CNN just needs a little diversity, like a dash of salt in a batch of cookies. not enough to shift the whole pallet just enough to give u a taste.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 4 2018 12:33pm)
hate to do it but i award one Pard point to endless. your best proof for CNN not being entirely biased was that loony lefties want to deplatform pundits who are put there with a Trumpian point of view.

CNN needs to host a right winged show to regain credibility as fair and balanced, it really comes down to the fact that literally every host has carbon copy opinion. the best they can do to moderate their leftist opinion is to invite Trump pundits on to state confusedly at when they counter with basic right winged ideology.

CNN is biased, AND they do OK coverage on most stuff. but from a starting point they're biased af, literally every single host. at least MSNBC has the whole Morning Joe never-trumper conservative bigshot host. Hell even Fox News has a few hosts that are imo never trumpers. CNN just needs a little diversity, like a dash of salt in a batch of cookies. not enough to shift the whole pallet just enough to give u a taste.


It's not just loony lefties... people on the left have criticized "bothsidesism" for years now. Presenting all sides equally or with the same legitimacy on every issue is wrong. They also have a fair point when some Trump pundits on CNN have signed non-disparagement agreements before leaving the campaign/administration.

I'm not saying CNN isn't biased... the opinion hosts are biased against Trump. CNN is hyper focused on Washington politics, it's all they cover. They're sensationalist, and they engage in a lot of meaningless discussion by inviting Trump people on to get the other side on why Trump kicking puppies isn't as bad as people think.
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Dec 4 2018 11:54am
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It's not just loony lefties... people on the left have criticized "bothsidesism" for years now. Presenting all sides equally or with the same legitimacy on every issue is wrong. They also have a fair point when some Trump pundits on CNN have signed non-disparagement agreements before leaving the campaign/administration.

I'm not saying CNN isn't biased... the opinion hosts are biased against Trump. CNN is hyper focused on Washington politics, it's all they cover. They're sensationalist, and they engage in a lot of meaningless discussion by inviting Trump people on to get the other side on why Trump kicking puppies isn't as bad as people think.


CNN also doxxes citizens when they disagree with them.
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Dec 4 2018 11:58am
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 4 2018 11:49am)
It's not just loony lefties... people on the left have criticized "bothsidesism" for years now. Presenting all sides equally or with the same legitimacy on every issue is wrong. They also have a fair point when some Trump pundits on CNN have signed non-disparagement agreements before leaving the campaign/administration.

I'm not saying CNN isn't biased... the opinion hosts are biased against Trump. CNN is hyper focused on Washington politics, it's all they cover. They're sensationalist, and they engage in a lot of meaningless discussion by inviting Trump people on to get the other side on why Trump kicking puppies isn't as bad as people think.


i disagree with the bolded, not because its inherently wrong, but because identifying when to use and not use bothsidesism is fraught with peril. i dont generally believe in slippery slope narratives, but i do believe that if CNN were to judge the legitimacy of each topic with regards to Republican opinions, and by extension not invite them on to talk about certain topics, it wouldnt even be a year before the entire network was a disgusting circle jerk.

both fox and CNN bring on the other side's pundits to shoot them full of arrows, i dont think that should factor into the networks credibility, was all i meant. and the very idea of "bothsidesism" is just a kneejerk reaction to "whatabutism" being the official buzzword of Summer-Fall 2018. i can guarantee that 99/100 CNN viewers would vote on a poll to not invite on any right winged people to talk about guns, because they believe the divide is too far and the other side is all liars and NRA shills. and i have a hard time finding ANY issue where the divide is much less, it used to be guns was a topic that stood out as more divisive than the average. now u see hearty squabbles on Christmas decorations. we're all in the sunken place together.
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