So god sent us his son to save us from gods creation? You have free will and dna designed by god to drive you to commit so called sin and if you do what you were designed and given free will to do you will burn in ever lasting fire. Please tell me more?

John 14:6 - Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Seems clear enough for me. Jesus himself said that He is the ONLY way to the Father. There is NO other way.

according to the bible according to those who own the bible.

there is no reasonable answer for long withstanding suffering in a book many christians are worshipping.
technically if you treat animals w/ respect & you know...don't torture them or kill them you'd be more righteous than god who does allow this to even christians.

it's like telling cattle that their lack of faith caused them to get the chopping block. belief is dangerous

This post was edited by lodd222 on Jul 13 2022 03:16pm

what's that got to do with anything?

No. God sent His Son to take the punishment for US for OUR sins. Sin is breaking one of God's Laws. Yes we have free will to sin or not to sin, but that's not what gets us into heaven or hell. We are ALL ALREADY on our way to hell because we are ALL ALREADY sinners. God didn't design us to sin either. God offers us a Pardon for our sins, through Faith in Jesus Christ, if we believe that He died and rose again as punishment for our sins. So our punishment goes up Jesus Christ rather than us when we place our faith in Him to save us. It's that simple. So you have your view of how it works wrong. A sin is a crime against God. Even if you sin once and then live a perfect life, you are still a sinner and must be punished, but God offers you a Pardon through Christ, Jesus, Just as the President can offer a Pardon to someone for their crimes. If you accept the Pardon, you are saved, if not, you have to go to Prison (Hell) and pay for your own sins. Hell is eternal. I choose the Pardon. You should too.

This post was edited by xfrodobagginsx on Jul 14 2022 07:10pm

make sure to pay for the book that tells you how to get to heaven.

If we are born in sin how is it OUR sin? Didn't God make us in the image and likeness of himself? So it must be gods sin, his imperfections and now he is punishing us for his fuck up? That's some twisted shit you swallow. Good one.

This post was edited by addone on Jul 19 2022 01:20am

is that your rationalization for the choice you are making?

what's that got to do with anything? your selective logic is showing

This post was edited by lodd222 on Jul 19 2022 03:51am