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Mar 2 2021 08:33pm
Quote (Ghot @ 3 Mar 2021 03:08)
Math requires one thing and one thing only.... tons of practice.


When it comes to lowly high school math, tons of practice and effort can partly substitute a lack of skill/talent/IQ - but actual university-level math is an entirely different kind of beast, it's basically a different discipline altogether.
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I don't think I ever read that.
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/there-is-no-such-thing-as-white-math
I found this professor's opinion interesting.
In particular, this quote.


When these things come up usually the article is saying something like "Math is used to make racial arguments that are not true seem more legitimate", for instance the entirety of The Bell Curve cherry picking data and racists assuming it's factual because "he did the math".

I've never seen an article actually saying that math depends on the race of the person doing it, it's always been the practical application of mathematics, particularly statistics, being used in a racist way.

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When it comes to lowly high school math, tons of practice and effort can partly substitute a lack of skill/talent/IQ - but actual university-level math is an entirely different kind of beast, it's basically a different discipline altogether.


I'm fortunate enough to have never taken a class beyond basic differential equations. You can get through with a lot of practice up to probably calculus 3 and Diffy Q. After that, it requires such a ridiculous amount of abstract thought that if you don't have the brain for it you just won't make significant advancements. Unfortunately all the "normal brain" math was completed well over 200 years ago.

I'm just happy that physics stops at differential equations and wave equations, even for really complicated quantum dynamics stuff.

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I'm fortunate enough to have never taken a class beyond basic differential equations. You can get through with a lot of practice up to probably calculus 3 and Diffy Q. After that, it requires such a ridiculous amount of abstract thought that if you don't have the brain for it you just won't make significant advancements. Unfortunately all the "normal brain" math was completed well over 200 years ago.

I'm just happy that physics stops at differential equations and wave equations, even for really complicated quantum dynamics stuff.


I guess it depends on the university. In my first class of Calc I during my first semester, there were around 200 people in the lecture room. At the end of the second semester, when we got back the final exam of Calc II, only the students who had any realistic hope of having passed this exam were present. It were less than 40 persons.

Quantum mechanics can be brutal, even if the underlying math is not hyper-fancy. Anyway, what you said about physics actually relates to applied physics. Theoretical physics is in fact one of the driving forces of progress in modern mathematics. On a research level, the overlap between theoretical physicists and mathematicians is very large.




Okay, how did "Trump 2024", of all threads, end up with a conversation about quantum mechanics? :lol:

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https://thedispatch.com/p/trump-cpac-cancel-culture-election

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Greater Orlando, Florida, hosts several of the most visited theme parks in the world. At the Magic Kingdom you can dress up like a princess, pretend you’re a pirate, or just act like you’re a kid again. Universal’s Islands of Adventure lets diehard Harry Potter fans pretend they’re students at Hogwarts. At Epcot you can visit Future World or make-believe re-creations of other countries. At the Canada Pavilion, for example, you can let your imagination whisk you away to that fantastical land of romance and adventure to the north.

So, it’s somewhat fitting that the Conservative Political Action Conference decamped down to Orlando this past weekend. The official motto of the confab was “America Uncanceled.” But if you actually followed the conversations, the real theme was the stuff of make-believe: imagining a world where Donald Trump really had won the 2020 election.

On the official agenda there were seven separate “Protecting Elections” panels and two “Save Our Elections Call Center” sessions. Other panels included: “Shining a Light on the Left’s 2020 Shadow Campaign,” “Fraudulent Elections in South Korea and the United States—Lessons Learned and Warnings for the Future,” and “The Voter Files: The Truth Is Out There: Ask Your Questions to the Election Lawyers.” Needless to say, the question for this audience wasn’t whether the election was stolen, but what to do about the fact that it was—and where to place the blame for the cover-up.

All this make-believe was necessary because, as former Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway said prophetically in 2017, CPAC would become TPAC, or “Trump PAC,” and it has.

The one thing Trump and his biggest fans will not stomach is the suggestion that he’s a loser. Moreover, as Andrew Egger notes at The Dispatch, “there’s ostensibly nothing modern conservatives hate more than a loser—Sen. Mitt Romney, after all, was once a CPAC darling too.”

The combined need to salve egos—on the stage and in the audience—and protect the new TPAC business model made questioning Trump’s “victory” as productive as telling the Harry Potter fans down the road that their $55 magic wands aren’t really magic.

To this crowd, Trump won and anyone who says otherwise is peddling fake news. The real fake news, however, is the idea that the CPAC crowd is actually opposed to cancel culture. They oppose—often with good reason—left-wing cancel culture. But Trump himself is among America’s foremost would-be cancelers. And pro-Trump cancel culture is alive and well, as countless efforts to censure Trump critics attest.

Matt Schlapp, the leader of CPAC, often says things like, “Open discussion of legitimate points of view is what separates conservatives from the left in America.” But he saw no reason to acknowledge Trump’s defeat, never mind that Trump shouldn’t define conservatism or the Republican Party. And conservatives who might speak up on the alternative facts—the truth in this case—weren’t technically “canceled,” they simply were not invited. (One invitee, Young Pharaoh, was actually booted because of anti-Semitic tweets.)

In his closing peroration before the faithful, Trump ran through many of his greatest hits and recycled the usual fake evidence that he won, except for claims about Dominion voting machines being rigged. Apparently losing an election isn’t nearly so reality-affirming as a potential billion-dollar lawsuit.

He also took time to call for the cancellation of every Republican who voted for impeachment or conviction, including “the warmonger” Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming. “Get rid of them all,” he demanded. The clear message: Unity in the GOP is defined by blind loyalty to him and his lies.

CPAC has never been the political bellwether its promoters claim, but at this stage in the 2024 presidential cycle it’s the best we’ve got. It doesn’t tell us what will really matter in the years of jockeying ahead, but it does tell us what very ambitious politicians think is important. And, going by the speeches, it seems that rumors of a GOP civil war are greatly exaggerated. In a civil war, at least two sides need to show up. This looked more like the victorious Bolsheviks trying to round up the last of the Mensheviks.

Speaking for many, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas declared, “Donald Trump isn’t going anywhere.” He’s right, of course. As always, Cruz would rather bend the knee to the man who attacked his wife and accused his father of being involved in President Kennedy’s assassination than stand and fight.


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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 2 2021 11:28pm)
Okay, how did "Trump 2024", of all threads, end up with a conversation about quantum mechanics? :lol:




Cause there's no way to know if Trump won or lost the election till you open the box. :D

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Cause there's no way to know if Trump won or lost the election till you open the box. :D


Hello... I am the Box:

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I guess it depends on the university. In my first class of Calc I during my first semester, there were around 200 people in the lecture room. At the end of the second semester, when we got back the final exam of Calc II, only the students who had any realistic hope of having passed this exam were present. It were less than 40 persons.

Quantum mechanics can be brutal, even if the underlying math is not hyper-fancy. Anyway, what you said about physics actually relates to applied physics. Theoretical physics is in fact one of the driving forces of progress in modern mathematics. On a research level, the overlap between theoretical physicists and mathematicians is very large.

Okay, how did "Trump 2024", of all threads, end up with a conversation about quantum mechanics? :lol:


Cuz Ghot is dumb.

There's an old saying. The best chemists are actually physicists, and the best physicists are actually mathematicians.
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I see that Trump and Hulk Hogan are kicking Biden and Harris' asses.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 2 2021 11:28pm)
Okay, how did "Trump 2024", of all threads, end up with a conversation about quantum mechanics? :lol:


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You might be interested to learn that Biden is proposing a 1.9 trillion COVID relief bill aimed at both defeating the virus and providing economic relief to working and middle class Americans.



ROFL !!!
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