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Quote (Handcuffs @ Sep 25 2020 02:35pm)
I think the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact will go into effect far sooner than North California or Jefferson State ever become a thing.


imo we'd have some sort of world wide govt before the EC falls. if it dies, its because america ceases to exist.

i could be wrong, but i dont think so. we're what? maybe 100-200 years from world govt, or less? once we colonize elsewhere nations cease to be as important imo. its either that or we race to colonize space, and i just hope we've learned our lesson there.
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and notice how little attention is paid to that “unfair” situation in the media etc.


I mean it's a non-story because no one cares. No one cared about the Democratic party in Texas either until recently. This is one of many reason why we have low voter turnout. People feel like they have zero voice in a lot of states.
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I mean it's a non-story because no one cares. No one cared about the Democratic party in Texas either until recently. This is one of many reason why we have low voter turnout. People feel like they have zero voice in a lot of states.

i was told Texas was turning blue again in 2008, and that was 12 years ago

they feel like they have zero voice in the Presidential election. while that may be true that isn’t the only political office people can vote for
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A compromise that I actually like quite a lot would be to allocate two thirds of a state's electoral votes according to the vote shares in that state, and one third according to the overall winner. If there are fractions, round up the number allocated to the statewide winning party.
So for example, if Trump wins Florida by 50.1% vs Biden's 49.8%, Trump would get two thirds of Florida's votes in the EC and Biden one third.


Say that Biden has meanwhile won California with 69% vs Trump's 30%.
55/3 = 18.333, so Biden would get this many EC votes for winning CA. The remaining 36.666 EC votes of CA would get distributed according to the popular vote share: 0.69*36.666 = 25.3, 0.3*36.666 = 11.
Hence, Biden would get ceil(18.333 + 25.3) = ceil(43.63) = 44 EC votes, Trump only receives 11.



With this system, there are far less wasted votes in the states with a noteworthy population (RI Republican voters and WY Democrats are still out of luck...), and candidates are rewarded for decisive wins and punished for scraping by.

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A compromise that I actually like quite a lot would be to allocate two thirds of a state's electoral votes according to the vote shares in that state, and one third according to the overall winner. If there are fractions, round up the number allocated to the statewide winning party.
So for example, if Trump wins Florida by 50.1% vs Biden's 49.8%, Trump would get two thirds of Florida's votes in the EC and Biden one third.


Say that Biden has meanwhile won California with 69% vs Trump's 30%.
55/3 = 18.333, so Biden would get this many EC votes for winning CA. The remaining 36.666 EC votes of CA would get distributed according to the popular vote share: 0.69*36.666 = 25.3, 0.3*36.666 = 11.
Hence, Biden would get ceil(18.333 + 25.3) = ceil(43.63) = 44 EC votes, Trump only receives 11.



With this system, there are far less wasted votes in the states with a noteworthy population (RI Republican voters and WY Democrats are still out of luck...), and candidates are rewarded for decisive wins and punished for scraping by.


Why 2/3rds? That seems rather arbitrary. Why not just give 2 (the senators) EVs to the winner and then the rest you split up according to popular vote?
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Why 2/3rds? That seems rather arbitrary. Why not just give 2 (the senators) EVs to the winner and then the rest you split up according to popular vote?


Then there's too little incentive for winning a state. But yeah, it's an arbitrary number. This is just a half-baked idea I came up with spontaneously. Dunno if it's any good.
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Quote (excellence @ Sep 25 2020 12:30pm)
id write you in if i lived in Cali my friend


same
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It's funny because I think there are more Republican voters in CA than any other state. Hell, the number of GOP voters in CA is larger than the population of all but 5 STATES I think.


this... is what im talking about.. and they might as well just drink on election night.. it sucks.. (not that I'm a current R. supporter but still this sucks for both sides)
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Sep 25 2020 04:55pm
Its gunna be Amy Coney Barrett.

Not only is she the best nominee, she'd win the swimsuit competition too.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 26 Sep 2020 00:55)
Its gunna be Amy Coney Barrett.

Not only is she the best nominee, she'd win the swimsuit competition too.


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