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Jan 24 2020 08:25pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ 24 Jan 2020 21:09)
All you communist losers need to go spend some time off of d2jsp and see how real life works. You all still suck.

kek

Quote (IceMage @ 24 Jan 2020 19:41)
Nice.



I don't want to call Black a cultist because he's not, but you can see the cult mindset here. Everyone who can be labeled as "against the leader" gets grouped into the same category. We're the same as the people who unironically call Trump Hitler.

On this forum I see way more reverse TDS than actual TDS. Trump supporters treat anti-Trump people as the embodiment of every ridiculous Trump critic.

well! when you have a group that calls anyone who supports the President a “racist xenophobic national-socialist deplorable white supremacist reich-wing traitor” and other slurs, regardless of the supporters’ actual background, then it shouldn’t be surprised that election-deniers who root for the country and President to fail are given the same lack of consideration

nothing makes me *LAUGH OUT LOUD* when some pale pasty privileged lefty who wasted all their privilege like thor or brian_d make accusations like this when they’ve demonstrated non-stop delusions since the 2016 election process started. i mean the flat earther card_sultan had to explain things to thor about how the primary process was gonna work come on :rofl:
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Jan 24 2020 08:33pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 24 2020 08:41pm)
I'm saying the prominent Trump supporters here seem to group every Trump critic in with all the ridiculous Trump critics.


Quote (bogie160 @ Jan 24 2020 09:21pm)
This is really far less common than the reverse.

We have a sizable percentage of the population that screams "cultist" whenever someone implies they don't want the sitting president of the United States immediately stripped of office and thrown into prison. And when I say that, I'm probably only exaggerating a little.



Quote (excellence @ Jan 24 2020 09:25pm)
kek


well! when you have a group that calls anyone who supports the President a “racist xenophobic national-socialist deplorable white supremacist reich-wing traitor” and other slurs, regardless of the supporters’ actual background, then it shouldn’t be surprised that election-deniers who root for the country and President to fail are given the same lack of consideration


So are you guys intentionally trying to prove my point or what?
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Jan 24 2020 08:36pm
tldr: partisanship is one hell of a drug, isnt it?




But on a more serious note: I put the "your side" in parentheses for a reason, because I didnt have the motivation to spend time and effort into finding a phrasing with scientific precision. I thought this sloppy wording would be understood the right way; I had no idea it would stir THAT much drama. :wacko:

Just to clarify: you're right that a basic level of differentiation should be upheld between the deranged TDS and cultist crowds on the one side, and those with wellfounded criticism or support for Trump on the other.
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Quote (IceMage @ Jan 24 2020 09:33pm)
So are you guys intentionally trying to prove my point or what?


I'm only pointing out that the situation you describe is more common in reverse.
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Jan 24 2020 08:42pm
Why am I always right? Either I've gotten smarter or PaRD has gotten dumber.
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Jan 24 2020 08:47pm
Quote (IceMage @ 24 Jan 2020 21:33)
So are you guys intentionally trying to prove my point or what?

you started it like McCain did
Quote (IceMage @ 24 Jan 2020 21:42)
Why am I always right? Either I've gotten smarter or PaRD has gotten dumber.

ok junior boomer lover of hillary and mueller

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Quote (IceMage @ Jan 24 2020 08:41pm)
Nope.

I'm saying the prominent Trump supporters here seem to group every Trump critic in with all the ridiculous Trump critics.

Whereas in the post you quoted, I made clear Black isn't a cultist. He's not the garden variety Trump stooge who defends every single thing the guy does.

And it's absurd to pretend Thor is some deranged critic, and even more absurd to pretend I am.

if "black" is not a cultist, maybe his opinions aren't all that cultist when you think they are. this "cultist" crap that came up this last year has all been a segregation thing anyway.

alright. which trump supporters are not prominent? still sounds like grouping tbh, but i'll give the benefit of the doubt here.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 23 2020 04:56pm)
He gets it from Shapiro, based on what he posts constantly. His style is exactly like Crowder, Shapiro, etc. being interested in owning the libs rhetorically instead of factually, except he was too dim to realize that they are doing it for show and not serious analysis.

even if none of you agree with claims i may have made, i have laid out my argument of them with plenty of fact and links to support it.
no such courtesy was given in response. instead this guy here just latches on to someone that refuses to support his argument and instead help him character assassinate.

that's not a deranged critic? this is very recent, and i'm debating editing in all of my quotes of that discussion.

edit: i'll note i didn't actually mean this to come after thor personally, but when i make claims, i use examples. and you mentioned thor, so... ya

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 24 2020 09:36pm)
But on a more serious note: I put the "your side" in parentheses for a reason, because I didnt have the motivation to spend time and effort into finding a phrasing with scientific precision. I thought this sloppy wording would be understood the right way; I had no idea it would stir THAT much drama. :wacko:

Just to clarify: you're right that a basic level of differentiation should be upheld between the deranged TDS and cultist crowds on the one side, and those with wellfounded criticism or support for Trump on the other.


But you countered Thor's affirmation of your criticism with an accusation grouping him in with unfair critics of Trump. You could've just acknowledged that maybe some of Trump's critics were right about the guy, but you went into defensive mode and treated Thor unfairly.

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Jan 24 2020 09:06pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 24 2020 09:42pm)
Why am I always right? Either I've gotten smarter or PaRD has gotten dumber.


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Jan 24 2020 09:10pm
Quote (IceMage @ 25 Jan 2020 03:56)
But you countered Thor's affirmation of your criticism with an accusation grouping him in with unfair critics of Trump. You could've just acknowledged that maybe some of Trump's critics were right about the guy, but you went into defensive mode and treated Thor unfairly.


Thor was the one who started the grouping thing when he wrote "literally what we've said since day 1". I understood the 'we' in this context to mean "we the critics of trump".

My reply was intended to say "a ton of criticism has been leveled at trump, and while plenty of it proved true, there's also plenty of criticism which was unfair or dead wrong, so you shouldnt feel too vindicated".
I should have chosen clearer and less snappy words to get this point across.
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