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#261
Jun 10 2016 10:49am
Quote (Surfpunk @ 10 Jun 2016 11:34)
How do you figure? The launch site was in Roswell, NM, and the landing site was 43 miles to the EAST, near Caprock, NM. Definite Coriolis effect.

And stars would be overpowered by the light from the sun. This is grade school science, we're talking, here.


Well for that assertion we would need to know the wind direction on that day at that time so his small deviation can really 've accounted for.



I can agree under the premise of void space and light emission from fusion that the stars wouldn't be visible is consistent enough.
I was merely trying to figure out the point Arsenic_Touch was making.

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Jun 10 2016 11:26am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jun 10 2016 11:14am)
Because gravity didn't keep that balloon moving over the same general area.

Oh, wait.....


Balloons float freely in the air and take them where the wind blows, if the earth was spinning at 1000 mph, shouldn't he have landed over 2000-3000 miles away? Are you saying that Gravity makes the air spin at 1000 mph? So why isn't an air-plane affected by this spinning if it dares fly against this super hurricane force yet any simple bug or butterfly can defy this so called magic gravity.

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Jun 10 2016 11:52am
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Balloons float freely in the air and take them where the wind blows, if the earth was spinning at 1000 mph, shouldn't he have landed over 2000-3000 miles away? Are you saying that Gravity makes the air spin at 1000 mph? So why isn't an air-plane affected by this spinning if it dares fly against this super hurricane force yet any simple bug or butterfly can defy this so called magic gravity.


The air is flowing at roughly the same speed as the earth, so we don't notice it. Deviations from the wind speed matching the motion of the earth is the wind. A patch of air going at 999mph instead of 1000mph would be a 1mph wind speed.
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Jun 10 2016 12:32pm
Quote (the_rest @ 10 Jun 2016 03:48)
"The road where cars go uphill, engine shut"

is in Romania

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPyPRevQoeA


There's a few places like that in Washington supposedly and one of the first things I thought of coming into FET. Much more compelled to verify it now.

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The air is flowing at roughly the same speed as the earth, so we don't notice it. Deviations from the wind speed matching the motion of the earth is the wind. A patch of air going at 999mph instead of 1000mph would be a 1mph wind speed.


Would it be possible to measure the air going that speed independent of the earth?

Quote (Impose @ 10 Jun 2016 07:46)
Fair enough. Can't blame you for that

Im curious what would happen if flat earthers were actually flown to space. Perhaps say the freemasons put a screen over the shuttle window


A founder of the modern flat earth society said that's the only way he could be convinced, and even then he'd need to be able to check for trickery.

I would expect most FErs to be satisfied with an independent measurement of the circumference of Antarctica.

Personally I would need to see across the middle of it and I still believe in the sphere.


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Jun 10 2016 12:47pm
Quote (MaliceMizer @ Jun 10 2016 12:32pm)
There's a few places like that in Washington supposedly and one of the first things I thought of coming into FET. Much more compelled to verify it now.


Would it be possible to measure the air going that speed independent of the earth?


You would have to define a reference frame outside of the earth, and stationary relative to the sun.
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Jun 10 2016 12:47pm
Quote (MaliceMizer @ Jun 10 2016 09:09am)
One would first need this in a true length to be able to identify flaws


Nah. If there's alterations of the video, experts would be able to pick that out even from the time-lapse.

Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 10 2016 10:23am)
Clearly a fish eye lense, people are fooled so easily.

I took him hours to fly that high, but only landed 37 miles away from take off- kinda weird if the earth is spinning once a day at 1000 miles an hour.


Clearly? That's how they have all those straight lines on the craft and curvature of the Earth??? Try again.

So if I jump up for 1 second while the Earth is spinning, my momentum doesn't keep me in relative position and I'll come down 1466 feet away? That's your logic here.
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Jun 10 2016 12:49pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 10 Jun 2016 13:47)
You would have to define a reference frame outside of the earth, and stationary relative to the sun.


So let's turn Hubble around. Fire up the presses people who's on Kickstarter?
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Jun 10 2016 12:49pm
Quote (Santara @ Jun 10 2016 12:47pm)
Nah. If there's alterations of the video, experts would be able to pick that out even from the time-lapse.



Clearly? That's how they have all those straight lines on the craft and curvature of the Earth??? Try again.

So if I jump up for 1 second while the Earth is spinning, my momentum doesn't keep me in relative position and I'll come down 1466 feet away? That's your logic here.


In science forum he just said a constant momentum requires a force, so remember that's the level of physics knowledge we are working with. Pre-Newtonian, a.k.a. basically none.
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#269
Jun 10 2016 12:50pm
The funnIest part about this stupidity is that we're right on the verge of commercial space flight.
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Jun 10 2016 12:52pm
Quote (MaliceMizer @ Jun 10 2016 12:49pm)
So let's turn Hubble around. Fire up the presses people who's on Kickstarter?


The Hubble telescope orbits earth, so you would have to first have it escape earth's gravitational well, then accelerate such that it isn't moving relative to the sun.

In the end it's ridiculous to do it anyway since if the wind wasnt moving at roughly the same speed as the earth we would be blasted with 1000mph winds as we pass through the stationary atmosphere at 1000mph.
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