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Quote (PixileDust @ Jan 4 2014 10:55pm)
Read the context surrounding that biblical quote.

Jesus was basically mocking caesar by stating that everything is God's.


Caesar wasn't the enemy in that passage, the Pharisees (carrying an idolatrous coin on temple grounds) were. They were trying to entrap him by forcing him into a treasonous position on account of which he could be charged.

The coin belongs to Caesar because he issued it, hence his face on the coin. Give it back to him when he asks, because what should concern you is what you ought to give unto God.

The passage is consistent with Jesus's outrage at commerce in the temple.
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Caesar wasn't the enemy in that passage, the Pharisees (carrying an idolatrous coin on temple grounds) were. They were trying to entrap him by forcing him into a treasonous position on account of which he could be charged.

The coin belongs to Caesar because he issued it, hence his face on the coin. Give it back to him when he asks, because what should concern you is what you ought to give unto God.

The passage is consistent with Jesus's outrage at commerce in the temple.


This is correct.
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And without the pig that bourgeoisie woman would have no property to begin with. Vicious cycle.
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And without the pig that bourgeoisie woman would have no property to begin with.  Vicious cycle.


I moreso got the feeling that it was saying "hey you're being unsafe" "I can kill you for resisting safety"
or something, unrelated to property...
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And without the pig that bourgeoisie woman would have no property to begin with.  Vicious cycle.


This is a problem for class struggle advocates, though, because it's these middle class kids who are spreading around this Ron Paul anti-state garbage. Why don't they see their true interests?
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Quote (Skinned @ Feb 2 2014 12:46pm)
And without the pig that bourgeoisie woman would have no property to begin with.  Vicious cycle.


So if not for an overbearing government people wouldn't enjoy property rights? That is what you are going with?
Even primitive societies had property rights.

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This is a problem for class struggle advocates, though, because it's these middle class kids who are spreading around this Ron Paul anti-state garbage. Why don't they see their true interests?


My true interest is what exactly? To have my money, property and/or life stolen from me? Or to sit by happily as the government damages the economy, loots and pillages, bans and ruins things, and kills people?
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So if not for an overbearing government people wouldn't enjoy property rights? That is what you are going with?
Even primitive societies had property rights.



My true interest is what exactly? To have my money, property and/or life stolen from me? Or to sit by happily as the government damages the economy, loots and pillages, bans and ruins things, and kills people?


Primitive societies had no concept of rights. You haven't the slightest idea about the philosophy underpinning your movement, nor do you probably thing it is important.

Rights were new creations of the Enlightenment.

Without the state there is no such things as rights. There are no rights in a state of nature. You have no right to property because me or somebody else will just take it from you and that will just be it.

Lol, primitive societies having rights....is that in the newsletter too?

The government does all those terrible things on your behalf to maintain your coercively established high quality of living. You could at least be appreciative.

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