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Oct 18 2012 04:13pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 18 2012 05:10pm)
I am not sure what you mean with the evil...
Did you seriously choose hell over paradise ? That would be sad, but I don't think I can do anything for you then...
I can try to do something for PaRD, because most do not understand the truth. They reject the obvious because lies are much more comfortable in this society, and the truth is scaring first... a human must be ready to face reality and free himself.
Now if you actually know the truth and reject it, I can not do anything.
I am also not sure sure about what you mean with the first sentence, do not hesitate to develop (feel free to pm me also).



As I said it is just an exemple of what I did to escape reality before I read The Present... This forum is based on a videogame, so it is not a so bad exemple... Tobbaco is still the best exemple, it was the biggest lie from myself in my life, the biggest non-sense.


I smoked for 15+ years, glad to be cigarette free. Lots of people quit smoking without being so pretentious.
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Oct 18 2012 04:27pm
Quote (Skinned @ 19 Oct 2012 00:13)
I smoked for 15+ years, glad to be cigarette free.  Lots of people quit smoking without being so pretentious.


And lots of people start again after some time :)
Call me with all the bad names you want, I am just saying the present helped me find the motivation to quit tobbaco forever, and I feel much better now.

Edit : Oh by the way, I did not use anything else than my motivation to stop smoking. I know a lot of people are still addicted to nicotine after they stop smoking... My own mother is an exemple.
A lot of people are also eating much more to compensate... I do not do that either, I just eat more fruits and vegetables than before, but I quit junk food too so I do not get fat like a lot of people after they quit smoking.

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Oct 18 2012 04:34pm
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Oct 18 2012 04:35pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 18 2012 05:10pm)
I am not sure what you mean with the evil...
Did you seriously choose hell over paradise ? That would be sad, but I don't think I can do anything for you then...
I can try to do something for PaRD, because most do not understand the truth. They reject the obvious because lies are much more comfortable in this society, and the truth is scaring first... a human must be ready to face reality and free himself.
Now if you actually know the truth and reject it, I can not do anything.
I am also not sure sure about what you mean with the first sentence, do not hesitate to develop (feel free to pm me also).


I agree with everything except their need to manage the world, the people can manage themselves. The typical eastern philosophy is always good and even new age info could help enlighten the masses. The agenda behind them though is powerful. You will always respect whoever has awaken you and always have blind faith for everything that is said. Be wary about a mass enlightenment because that would mean the masses will be following, or putting their faith. In somebody. And when I see the agenda of the wealthy mixed with the needed changes for the poor, I uhh, get suspicious.

PaRD is stuck on the idea that a religion is interfering with their oh so important mental capacity. It's like you're slapping them in the face, they get offended.

PaRD needs more connections going on upstairs. That is easy to do, learn new things and ideas, boom. Study the opposing side at least enough to help the opposition. That is respect for one another, learn, for others.
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Oct 18 2012 04:43pm
Quote (girl0ngirl @ Oct 18 2012 05:35pm)
I agree with everything except their need to manage the world, the people can manage themselves. The typical eastern philosophy is always good and even new age info could help enlighten the masses. The agenda behind them though is powerful. You will always respect whoever has awaken you and always have blind faith for everything that is said. Be wary about a mass enlightenment because that would mean the masses will be following, or putting their faith. In somebody. And when I see the agenda of the wealthy mixed with the needed changes for the poor, I uhh, get suspicious.

PaRD is stuck on the idea that a religion is interfering with their oh so important mental capacity. It's like you're slapping them in the face, they get offended.

PaRD needs more connections going on upstairs. That is easy to do, learn new things and ideas, boom. Study the opposing side at least enough to help the opposition. That is respect for one another, learn, for others.


Not me, I borrow ideas from all religions.

And there are plenty of faithful people on PaRD and they reason just fine.
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Oct 18 2012 04:48pm
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 18 2012 05:43pm)
Not me, I borrow ideas from all religions.

And there are plenty of faithful people on PaRD and they reason just fine.


There are plenty of complete individuals out in the world but the dominant paradigm still needs fixin. Nothing I say is ment to be personal. The only idiot I've met here is ainedespelsceck or sumthing. And i say that cuz half his posts are personal.
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Oct 18 2012 05:25pm
Quote (girl0ngirl @ 19 Oct 2012 00:35)
I agree with everything except their need to manage the world, the people can manage themselves. The typical eastern philosophy is always good and even new age info could help enlighten the masses. The agenda behind them though is powerful. You will always respect whoever has awaken you and always have blind faith for everything that is said. Be wary about a mass enlightenment because that would mean the masses will be following, or putting their faith. In somebody. And when I see the agenda of the wealthy mixed with the needed changes for the poor, I uhh, get suspicious.

PaRD is stuck on the idea that a religion is interfering with their oh so important mental capacity. It's like you're slapping them in the face, they get offended.

PaRD needs more connections going on upstairs. That is easy to do, learn new things and ideas, boom. Study the opposing side at least enough to help the opposition. That is respect for one another, learn, for others.


Ok, I understand better what you mean now.
Of course people can manage themselves but only if they become rational and stop lie to themselves.

"This book has only one purpose, that is to show people the truth." I am not sure this is exactly what the autor wrote, but I am too lazy to search right now and that is the point.
The purpose of this book is just to help people see the truth... the truth is the only way to unity and equality, everything else is divising us.
I do not mean we are not different, but once you see the truth you see people as they are : your human brothers and sisters.
The color of our skin, eyes, hairs... all our physical differences do not change the fact we are all equal humans beings.
I saw some thread about value of Americans on this forum, this one was funny (but sad also).

We all have a different perception and environment, but it does not change the truth.
People can think what they want, but we all need to breath to stay alive.

"Every so often someone says truth is subjective. That it can be different for different people. That if you believe it is true it is true etc. It is the worse BS. It shows how asleep people are, because they do not really believe it. In school after taking a math exam did they argue with the teacher that any answer could be true? No. Did they tell their geography teacher that Texas could be at the north pole? No because everyone knows there is one truth. The reason they keep saying it is not even though they know it is, shows clearly people are asleep, and or into self-deception."
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Oct 18 2012 05:33pm
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As I said it is just an exemple of what I did to escape reality before I read The Present... This forum is based on a videogame, so it is not a so bad exemple... Tobbaco is still the best exemple, it was the biggest lie from myself in my life, the biggest non-sense.


...yet you continue to quote Bob Marley as if he is your favorite prophet . Sup with that...?
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Oct 18 2012 05:41pm
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I never talked about last chapter.
My point is Brad said "everyone with a brain will continue to move forward", but you guys are obviously keeping to fool yourself and not moving forward, your posts are proofs.
Of course you will find something to answer and it will just make my point stronger, and keep this thread on top... you are welcome :)


The entire point of my post was in saying that I don't have to read every fucking word to understand that what I'm reading is trash. That's just a pathetic shield you use to avoid the TRUTH, because you don't want to have a real discussion about this shit. Anyone who has anything negative to say, you just shrilly accuse them of not having read the whole book, as though it can't be criticized without someone reading every single word. I can see that it's garbage from what little I've read, and I don't have to make it to the end to see exactly how terrible it is.
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Oct 18 2012 05:42pm
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 18 2012 06:13pm)
I smoked for 15+ years, glad to be cigarette free.  Lots of people quit smoking without being so pretentious.


I just quit about 20 minutes ago hopefully.

Next few days won't be fun.
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Oct 18 2012 05:50pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 19 Oct 2012 01:33)
...yet you continue to quote Bob Marley as if he is your favorite prophet . Sup with that...?


You are one of the most closed minded humans I ever met, this post is one more proof...
You obviously do not know anything about Bob Marley.
I guess you believe Bob Marley was encourraging people to smoke cannabis... you focus on this, and you think he could not say anything rational because he smoked cannabis ?
Or maybe the only fact that he was not white makes it impossible for him to be a prophet ?
Stop fool yourself, or stop post here, I will not waste my time to answer your stupid questions again.

Bob Marley has a great message of truth/life/love, freedom, peace and unity.
I quote him often because I know some of his words very well, but I can quote a lot of other people.

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A man should look for what is and not for what he thinks should be.

Albert Einstein

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To know the truth is the best thing. To know that you do not know is the second best. To pretend to know when you do not know is a disease.

Lao Tzu

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Behind your thoughts and feelings, my brother, there stands a mighty ruler. An unknown sage - whose name is self. In your body he dwells. There is more reason in your body than in your best wisdom.

Friedrich Nietzsche

This are just exemple I can find fast, I could quote at least 10 different people if I spend some time on this... but I do not think you will get the point anyway.

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 19 Oct 2012 01:41)
The entire point of my post was in saying that I don't have to read every fucking word to understand that what I'm reading is trash.  That's just a pathetic shield you use to avoid the TRUTH, because you don't want to have a real discussion about this shit.  Anyone who has anything negative to say, you just shrilly accuse them of not having read the whole book, as though it can't be criticized without someone reading every single word.  I can see that it's garbage from what little I've read, and I don't have to make it to the end to see exactly how terrible it is.


Yeah ok I understand you think it is garbage, you said it more than once already... thanks for reminding me, but I still do not care :)
I will not try to argue with you anymore, you win.
I just created this thread in case some people would be interrested, and I will keep it up because it could reach some more people in the next days.
If you want to help me keep it up I do not have any problem about it.

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Oct 18 2012 05:57pm
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