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Quote (Nihlathak @ May 24 2011 02:19pm)
Exactly, and saying that statement itself is true is a universal truth.

And I lol'd at the underlined statement, because that's a maxim that actually requires more assumptions than anything else.


An if statement != truth

Nothing might exist.

Existence in itself is a human thing.
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May 24 2011 01:21pm
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Contemptus mundi is a good motivator for spiritual reflection.  Part of being a good Christian is recognizing that life is a gift from God though.  Part of that recognition is to enjoy the gift.  Saying that this life isn't great to enjoy doesn't seem quite right to me.


...in all honesty life is a trial of tests and hardship interrupted by brief periods of complacency and relative happiness . I rejoice in my salvation and not in temporary earthly pleasures .
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May 24 2011 01:22pm
Quote (DubstepPrincess @ May 24 2011 01:17pm)
Prove to me that your perception is the correct perception over the schizophrenic.




If it does then it does obviously. Humans can never know this though.
Also "true" is a human logic term that may have no significant value in the grand scheme.


I am the Schizophrenic.
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Typical ignorant JSP members. I enjoy the nice welcome.


Lol. So tell us how a noob with 5 days on JSP can tell the difference between "typical" and atypical JSP members.
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May 24 2011 01:22pm
Quote (DubstepPrincess @ May 24 2011 02:20pm)
An if statement != truth

Nothing might exist.

Existence in itself is a human thing.



Clearly you're not understanding.

If I exist, then I exist.

That statement necessarily must be true. I'm not saying that I exist, or that the statement "I exist" is true; I'm saying the statement "If I exist, then I exist" is true.

I don't know how much more evident I can make this.
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May 24 2011 01:25pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 24 2011 03:21pm)
...in all honesty life is a trial of tests and hardship interrupted by brief periods of complacency and relative happiness . I rejoice in my salvation and not in temporary earthly pleasures .

Vouch this statement. b) :thumbsup:
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May 24 2011 01:26pm
Quote (Nihlathak @ May 24 2011 02:22pm)
Clearly you're not understanding.

If I exist, then I exist.

That statement necessarily must be true. I'm not saying that I exist, or that the statement "I exist" is true; I'm saying the statement "If I exist, then I exist" is true.

I don't know how much more evident I can make this.



Ok look.
You are a human. You cant understand anything besides existing and not existing.
These are mechanism created through evolution.

You cant say "If this is true than this is true"
What you are really saying is " This makes sense to me so this also must make sense"

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May 24 2011 01:28pm
Quote (Aisu_aS @ May 24 2011 02:22pm)
I am the Schizophrenic.


Shouldn't that read "we are the Schizo?"
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May 24 2011 01:29pm
Quote (DubstepPrincess @ May 24 2011 02:26pm)
Ok look.
You are a human. You cant understand anything besides existing and not existing.
These are mechanism created through evolution.

You cant say "If this is true than this is true"
What you are really saying is " This makes sense to me so this also must make sense"



Yes you can. And it's a true statement. Your responses are irrelevant and nonsensical. Give me some sort of reason why I'm not allowed to say that and why it's not true.

edit: assuming you meant "then", and not "than" in the bolded statement.

This post was edited by Nihlathak on May 24 2011 01:30pm
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Quote (Santara @ May 24 2011 01:28pm)
Shouldn't that read "we are the Schizo?"


Eh mine isn't that bad. Some delusions and auditory hallucinations every once in a while. Only ever heard voices speak to me twice.
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