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Apr 26 2011 12:51pm
Quote (njaguar @ Apr 26 2011 12:45pm)
You are using that position to defend unisex bathrooms. That's like saying "kids threaten each other all the time, so obviously gun/knife laws aren't stopping kids from problems, so let's let them buy them at any age they want". Your anecdote is not only morally reprehensible, but wrong. You are also wrong in that not all kids are raised that way, or exposed to such, so it is no longer empirical. Even so, whether or not a child knows what sex is does not suddenly make them protected from a sex crime, which was the core argument of protection. Don't confuse this with knowing what genitalia or sex is, because that's not what anyone here besides you are saying.

You have no idea what or what I wasn't raised with, but feel free to make assumptions. Note that it doesn't make your argument stronger. I also did not personally attack you in that reply, nor have I in "every post". Just because you got called out, you don't have to be dramatic. :)


Now answer the second part about how I have never seen a penis in a bathroom besides my own.


The core of my first argument is that because access is so easy for children and is GOING to happen some time at a very young age the fact that they might happen to see it in a bathroom is a non-issue. Unless you are also advocating for laws restricting all sex exposure for children unisex bathrooms are a non issue. Your argument is closer to eliminating knifes from kitchens because they will teach violence but still allowing violence on television to go unabated.

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Abstinence and sex education are not mutually exclusive. Abstinence means to abstain from, ie, not have, from sex. +1 post though!


The point i was making is that in some schools abstinence is the alternative to Sex Education. I know they go hand in hand but i don't believe that abstinence should be the only thing taught.

For Example in My Local HS i had to take two Separate Classes on it.

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Now answer the second part about how I have never seen a penis in a bathroom besides my own.



...and you call ME homophobic ? :rofl:

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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 26 2011 12:54pm)
...and you call ME homophobic ?  :rofl:


It simply has not happened. I can happen to not see a penis without actively avoiding it :P

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...and you call ME homophobic ?  :rofl:


How does that make sense?
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How do you teach children abstinence?  I believe you misconstruded sex ed with abstinence some how.


Much like the "Just Say No" Policy in DARE. Where you are only taught about the dangers and never receive any actual education.

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The point i was making is that in some schools abstinence is the alternative to Sex Education. I know they go hand in hand but i don't believe that abstinence should be the only thing taught.

For Example in My Local HS i had to take two Separate Classes on it.


You cant be taught abstinence... Abstinence is the absence of sex... Sex education is more than "dick goes in vag" if you remember correctly.. Its anatomy as well, and diseases, prevention "abstinence being one of these", etc.. Thats like teaching an Economics class and a book keeping class... It doesnt make sense.
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How do you teach children abstinence?  I believe you misconstruded sex ed with abstinence some how.


How do you teach children abstinence? Um well, you tell them to abstain and then give the reasons to justify that course of action?

Were you really being serious with that question just then?

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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ 26 Apr 2011 19:55)
You cant be taught abstinence...  Abstinence is the absence of sex...  Sex education is more than "dick goes in vag" if you remember correctly..  Its anatomy as well, and diseases, prevention "abstinence being one of these", etc..  Thats like teaching an Economics class and a book keeping class...  It doesnt make sense.


They are referring to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstinence-only_sex_education

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Abstinence-only sex education is a form of sex education that emphasizes abstinence from sex, and often excludes many other types of sexual and reproductive health education, particularly regarding birth control and safe sex. This type of sex education promotes sexual abstinence until marriage and avoids discussion of use of contraceptives.
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Quote (Rhamax @ Apr 26 2011 06:55pm)
How do you teach children abstinence? Um well, you tell them to abstain and then give the reasons to justify that course of action?

Were you really being serious with that question just then?


You're an idiot if you honestly are trying to rebuttle my question earlier. How can you have a CLASS on abstinence? There, i'll rephrase it for you, since you couldnt quite grasp the direction of my question.
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