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Aug 14 2024 09:50pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 15 2024 01:47pm)
I think the most apt way to dismiss the red herring arguments of mutations is that 99.999%+ of people conform 99.999%+ to a binary sex. If a story is about someone purporting to be magically non-conforming intersex, they aren't. Can probably count the total number of true cases in the world on that 4 fingered hand. Just because a biological male is born with a genital disorder doesn't change their sex, they still conform to a binary sex in their basic biology.


The figure is not even close to this lie, so if you have to lie to make your point you never had one to begin with, do you deny that red haired people exist as a demographic?
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 14 2024 08:47pm)
I think the most apt way to dismiss the red herring arguments of mutations is that 99.999%+ of people conform 99.999%+ to a binary sex. If a story is about someone purporting to be magically non-conforming intersex, they aren't. Can probably count the total number of true cases in the world on that 4 fingered hand. Just because a biological male is born with a genital disorder doesn't change their sex, they still conform to a binary sex in their basic biology.


You would think so, but that self evident observation seems insufficient. But then again, we're talking about trying to logically debate pigeons who are very much not interested in rationality.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 14 2024 08:49pm)
Ah yes, because if you ignore a bunch of intersex conditions like klinefelter which IS an intersex condition making males much more female in appearance intersex conditions become much rarer.
Like how if you ignore gun murders in america murder becomes a lot less common.


Even if we consider and include all the possible arguments for what constitutes intersex conditions, we're still just talking about how rare the condition is. It's still a rare anomaly..
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You would think so, but that self evident observation seems insufficient. But then again, we're talking about trying to logically debate pigeons who are very much not interested in rationality.


Ah yes the old call everyone a "pigeon/bot/npc" nonsense the right like to throw around as if your entire IDENTITY is not a political ideal.
I can tell you your stance on ANY social issue just based on the fact that you are a conservative, you just parrot whatever rupurt murdoch wants you to think and never stray from the script, every one of you is the same.
What are the odds 61 million people all feel the exact same way about a thousand different difficult social issues?
You can't peg me down like that because i actually do think for myself and i look at each issue on its own merits, no one tells me what i believe.


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Ah yes, because if you ignore a bunch of intersex conditions like klinefelter which IS an intersex condition making males much more female in appearance intersex conditions become much rarer.
Like how if you ignore gun murders in america murder becomes a lot less common.


Additionally, it's like if you exclude a single minority demographic for gun violence, suddenly America has parity with the rest of the Western nations. Despite everyone and their mother having a gun!
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 14 2024 08:58pm)
Ah yes the old call everyone a "pigeon/bot/npc" nonsense the right like to throw around as if your entire IDENTITY is not a political ideal.
I can tell you your stance on ANY social issue just based on the fact that you are a conservative, you just parrot whatever rupurt murdoch wants you to think and never stray from the script, every one of you is the same.
What are the odds 61 million people all feel the exact same way about a thousand different difficult social issues?
You can't peg me down like that because i actually do think for myself and i look at each issue on its own merits, no one tells me what i believe.


Ah yes, me, an Imperial Caesarist, has the same views as the majority of American Republicans. Projection
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Aug 14 2024 10:06pm
Quote (El1te @ Aug 15 2024 01:58pm)
Additionally, it's like if you exclude a single minority demographic for gun violence, suddenly America has parity with the rest of the Western nations. Despite everyone and their mother having a gun!


Ah yes those mass school shootings you get are all done by minorities right?
My country has never had a single one in our history including when we had no gun laws.
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Ah yes those mass school shootings you get are all done by minorities right?
My country has never had a single one in our history including when we had no gun laws.


School shootings are a fringe minority of gun violence & deaths. On that topic, only one political party supports increasing security at schools, can you guess which one?
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Aug 14 2024 10:13pm
Quote (El1te @ Aug 15 2024 02:10pm)
School shootings are a fringe minority of gun violence & deaths. On that topic, only one political party supports increasing security at schools, can you guess which one?


The ones who made the gun problem in the first place and think more guns will solve it?
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Aug 14 2024 10:15pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 14 2024 10:50pm)
The figure is not even close to this lie, so if you have to lie to make your point you never had one to begin with, do you deny that red haired people exist as a demographic?


The rate at which sex can't be categorized as male or female by chromosomes or phenotype is a tiny percent, less than 0.02%. The rate at which it can't be categorized as male or female by chromosomes and phenotype is basically non-existent. Genitalia disorders like the runner in this case have, aren't that uncommon and don't make you intersex, about a 0.05% rate per birth, but virtually all still conform to chromosomal biological sex. It would take someone being both klinefelter, turner or other chromosomal aberration and having indistinct genitalia / gonads / other dimorphist characteristics
About 0.001% of births have an XXXXY chromosomes, but the few that have had it are clearly male, exhibiting the puberty and muscle and skeletal growth of males but with plenty of abnormalities in a variety of systems.

Again the point is, true hermaphrodites are born at about the same rate as humans with telepathy or a gizzard
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