Quote (Beowulf @ 13 Jan 2019 13:52)
It's easy to oppose a wall that is being pushed by a guy that ran on the great wall of trump that would be paid for by Mexico
The great wall of trump in the terrain we are talking doesn't make sense for the price in a lot of the area. I support security and resources for technology and don't find a wall by itself immoral at all but foolish conservatives that compare it to prisons actually make it into a moral arguement by going that route
Trump wanted the wall as a giant brand item dick in the dirt and he said we weren't going to pay for it.
This is all about a campaign promise and some conservatives turning on him for not fulfilling it while they had full power for 2 years. In some areas a fancy barrier makes sense but that's not the campaign promise and people's paychecks shouldn't be held hostage by a manbaby president to fulfill a tiny piece of what his actual campaign promise was.
This is not a crisis or a national emergency it's an issue a slow burning long occurring issue that's all it is
oh cut the crap, they did not have full power. at no point during trumps presidency did they have a filibuster-proof majority in the senate, and the senate democrats filibustering the GOP bill before christmas is the only reason why the construction of the wall hasnt already started.
at the end of the day, the only major pieces of legislation that were passed by congress during the last
decade were Obamacare and Trump's tax cuts. Obamacare could be passed because the Dems did have a filibuster-proof majority of 60 seats at the time, and the tax cuts only went through because it didnt have to clear the 60 vote threshold.
And let's not forget that a disastrous Bush presidency, a catastrophic war in Iraq, a fumbled Hurricance response and Obama's historic 2008 campaign all had to come together to barely net the Democrats a 60-seat majority for a brief 2-year period. With the way the Senate is operating, getting partisan legislation through congress nowadays has become almost impossible.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 13 2019 07:41am