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May 5 2016 01:38pm
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I'm going to take a sliver out of your blatant hackery and run with it. The Republican party doesn't seem to have the ability to express the conservative message in an inspirational, comprehensive way like Reagan did. The Democratic party doesn't have that problem.


Every election this blows my mind.

How in the Hell can they not find a couple charismatic and intelligent 40 somethings to inspire people while selling the conservative message?

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May 5 2016 01:40pm
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Every election this blows my mind.

How in the Hell can they not find a couple charismatic and intelligent 40 somethings to inspire people while selling the conservative message?


There's only so many Ronald Reagan's and Barack Obama's in the world. I think Rubio will come back the next election and be even better, hopefully the Republican voters get a little smarter after Trump loses.

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May 5 2016 01:44pm
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There's only so many Ronald Reagan's and Barack Obama's in the world. I think Rubio will come back the next election and be even better, hopefully the Republican voters get a little smarter after Trump loses.


I don't buy the Rubio is dead talk either. Democrats were definitely worried about him prior to the Trump nonsense and I think people acting like it's over for him are wrong.

If any of the magnificent seventeen have a chance of a comeback it's Rubio imo.
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May 5 2016 01:49pm
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I don't buy the Rubio is dead talk either. Democrats were definitely worried about him prior to the Trump nonsense and I think people acting like it's over for him are wrong.

If any of the magnificent seventeen have a chance of a comeback it's Rubio imo.


The whole RubioBot thing was his downfall.
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May 5 2016 01:52pm
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The whole RubioBot thing was his downfall.


I don't think it ended him.

Especially after the disaster a hypothetical President Trump will be

Republicans will be begging for a robot comeback
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May 5 2016 01:55pm
Quote (Beowulf @ May 5 2016 02:52pm)
I don't think it ended him.

Especially after the disaster a hypothetical President Trump will be

Republicans will be begging for a robot comeback


his mistake was not waiting til 2020 to run.
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May 5 2016 02:02pm
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The whole RubioBot thing was his downfall.


Marcobot. I remember because Marco Ruboto would have been a much better nickname...
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May 5 2016 02:12pm
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There's only so many Ronald Reagan's and Barack Obama's in the world. I think Rubio will come back the next election and be even better, hopefully the Republican voters get a little smarter after Trump loses.


I was super high on Rubio during this election, but I'm not sure he has it.

Plus, he said he isn't going to re-run for his seat in the Senate this November. That's what he said, at least:

"I’m not running for re-election to the Senate,” he said. “I’m going to finish out my term here.”

So it looks like he is taking a break from politics for at least a little while.
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May 5 2016 02:28pm
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I was super high on Rubio during this election, but I'm not sure he has it.

Plus, he said he isn't going to re-run for his seat in the Senate this November. That's what he said, at least:

"I’m not running for re-election to the Senate,” he said. “I’m going to finish out my term here.”

So it looks like he is taking a break from politics for at least a little while.


Rubio got abused hard in practically every debate... he'll come back stronger next time. Usually people who win the nomination have to lose first to win later. Hillary, Romney, McCain, Bush 1, Reagan, etc.

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May 5 2016 02:31pm
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If thats true, it implies that there are less republicans actually against trump, does it not? Unless by cross over you aren't meaning democrats and merely meaning typical non voters.


It would mean that, and also that there are simply fewer Republicans, just based off of looking at the raw vote totals from the primary votes. That's the big mistake that people make when they, over and over again, look at those raw vote totals and try to make assumptions based off of them. They'll take a state like Michigan and think "oh my god, look at all these people voting for Trump and all the other Republicans, they got over 1.32 million votes. Clinton and Sanders only got 1.2 million, the Republicans are gonna win Michigan!!!111one"

And it's not entirely their fault for thinking that, because Trump himself is stupid enough to think it works that way and he repeats it constantly, and dumb/lazy media personalities repeat it too, but either way it isn't going to happen. But that's the danger in just assuming that because Republican primary turnout was higher this year, Trump was able to magically bring people into the political process to cast strictly positive votes.
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