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Quote (Kayeto @ 29 Mar 2020 12:15)
your posts are just "orange man bad" and don't add any meaning to conversation. We all know he's an egotistical jerk, but that is not pertinent to the issue at hand.

Every unit of medical supplies that gets shipped to one state is depriving 49 other states of that item who also need them. Even if he literally raffled them off at random, it wouldn't make a difference in how good the federal response actually is to the nation as a whole.

The fact the he's childish and petty doesn't impact his job performance in this case.


do you actually believe that? or is that just your best attempt at justifying the unjustifiable? because that doesn't even begin to make sense.

let me put that in terms a trumpass can understand: if during a flood you have a limited amount of sandbags at a time, you put them where they can prevent the most damage, where they are most needed first. you don't say 'well, protecting that children's hospital would just mean we could not protect that gun shop on the other side of town, so withholding them is fine, doesn't make a difference'. that's preposterous.

the whole point is getting the supplies where they are most needed. so describing trump's approach as 'childish and petty' is a pretty big understatement - he is willing to let american citizens needlessly die because of his fragile ego - but i guess that is ok with you, because their governor was really mean to your cult leader, for not licking his boots properly, right?

literally every single post of yours is: "ok, he might be a little petty, but it's actually not a big deal really", when in reality he has proven yet again to be entirely incompetent and ineffective as a leader of a nation.
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do you actually believe that? or is that just your best attempt at justifying the unjustifiable? because that doesn't even begin to make sense.

let me put that in terms a trumpass can understand: if during a flood you have a limited amount of sandbags at a time, you put them where they can prevent the most damage, where they are most needed first. you don't say 'well, protecting that children's hospital would just mean we could not protect that gun shop on the other side of town, so withholding them is fine, doesn't make a difference'. that's preposterous.

the whole point is getting the supplies where they are most needed. so describing trump's approach as 'childish and petty' is a pretty big understatement - he is willing to let american citizens needlessly die because of his fragile ego - but i guess that is ok with you, because their governor was really mean to your cult leader, for not licking his boots properly, right?

literally every single post of yours is: "ok, he might be a little petty, but it's actually not a big deal really", when in reality he has proven yet again to be entirely incompetent and ineffective as a leader of a nation.




Oh, and you have documentation about where the supplies are most needed? Because without such documentation, you're just pulling another "orange man bad".

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Oh, and you have documentation about where the supplies are most needed? Because without such documentation, you're just pulling another "orange man bad".


are you being serious right now? hospitals and states update that information on a near hourly basis, even the pubic can follow it on several tracker websites, it's one of the main reason for testing, reporting, and coordinating aid, lol. another trumpass practicing reality denial in order to downplay their emperor's disregard for american lives...
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Quote (fender @ Mar 29 2020 06:50am)
describing trump's approach as 'childish and petty' is a pretty big understatement


even when someone else says "orange man bad", you accusing them of not saying he is bad enough

Orange man has an average amount of badness. You try to twist that into "defending" or "justifying" the amount of badness that he has. Your only goal is to push that narrative as far as possible. You couldn't care less about underlying facts of pandemic.

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you put them where they can prevent the most damage, where they are most needed first.


You don't care whether or not the resources are being allocated incorrectly. You just wait and see however he allocates them, scour the stories for anything that reveals his badness, and then scream 'that way was imperfect!'

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he is willing to let american citizens needlessly die


You don't care that letting american citizens die in the short term might saves more lives in the long term. You are only gonna take the chance to point how much evil was contained in the lesser of the two evils.
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Quote (Kayeto @ 29 Mar 2020 13:06)
even when someone else says "orange man bad", you accusing them of not saying he is bad enough

Orange man has an average amount of badness. You try to twist that into "defending" or "justifying" the amount of badness that he has. Your only goal is to push that narrative as far as possible. You couldn't care less about underlying facts of pandemic.



You don't care whether or not the resources are being allocated incorrectly. You just wait and see however he allocates them, scour the stories for anything that reveals his badness, and then scream 'that way was imperfect!'



You don't care that letting american citizens die in the short term might saves more lives in the long term. You are only gonna take the chance to point how much evil was contained in the lesser of the two evils.


you might win the projection olympics with that post, but certainly not this argument. the FACT that he withholds aid for ego reasons should be a giveaway, even for trumpasses, but there are some that are so far up his fat orange ass with their nose, they apparently can't even admit that. pathetic.
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Quote (fender @ Mar 29 2020 07:03am)
are you being serious right now? hospitals and states update that information on a near hourly basis, even the pubic can follow it on several tracker websites, it's one of the main reason for testing, reporting, and coordinating aid, lol. another trumpass practicing reality denial in order to downplay their emperor's disregard for american lives...




Close but no cigar.

"Where the supplies are needed" is NOT very straight forward.

You have to have the facilities, the licensed medical professionals, etc., to even USE the supplies. Then and only then can you use simplistic data like infections and deaths to choose between various locations.
Then, on top of all that, you have to be concerned with hoarding, panic ordering, etc. A governor or hospital for example, can panic buy, just like anyone else.

Things like ventilators are NOT comparable to sand bags in your earlier analogy.



/e Just because Trump may have slammed a governor or two on twitter, doesn't mean that they would "really" be deprived of things that were honestly needed.

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Fucked up we don't have an actual treatment for this outside human experimentation so far, is what i am reading.

When i say we, i mean my fellow Earthlings.

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