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Jan 2 2019 04:30pm
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It was just a union of trade to start with, which is what it should have remained as.


money is power. and power breeds corruption.

meaningless platitude for the day, check.
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Thats honestly how we got hitler. The left got so goddamn bad that we said "fuck it gas the jews"

You're clueless and probably poor


Look like you are talking to a mirror. Bitching around on Europe fits well with you.
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Quote (dro94 @ 2 Jan 2019 20:59)
It was just a union of trade to start with, which is what it should have remained as.


Free movement is also something very important especially in the long run, but some limitations/restrictions should have been implemented.
Maybe it can still be fixed btw, who know :)
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Jan 2 2019 05:10pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 2 Jan 2019 23:58)
Look like you are talking to a mirror. Bitching around on Europe fits well with you.
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Free movement is also something very important especially in the long run, but some limitations/restrictions should have been implemented.
Maybe it can still be fixed btw, who know :)


they already exist

the schengen agreement includes the demand to install a system of mobile and multinational border controls to provide sufficient security
almost nothing happened since then and there arent many people, who seem to care

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Jan 2 2019 06:25pm
Quote (ampoo @ 3 Jan 2019 00:10)
they already exist

the schengen agreement includes the demand to install a system of mobile and multinational border controls to provide sufficient security
almost nothing happened since then and there arent many people, who seem to care


Im talking about the ones abusing system like it happened with some polishes in UK
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Jan 2 2019 06:47pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 3 Jan 2019 01:25)
Im talking about the ones abusing system like it happened with some polishes in UK


The problem isn't freedom of movement among citizens of member states, it's letting certain states become members when they (or the EU) are not ready.

As for non-EU citizens, they should be assigned a member state based on quotas and taking into account certain factors (their personal preference, family members living in a certain place, spoken language, job opportunities, etc) whenever possible. For a few years they'd only be able to work and receive full access to public services and benefits in their state.
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Jan 2 2019 06:55pm
Quote (dro94 @ 2 Jan 2019 20:59)
It was just a union of trade to start with, which is what it should have remained as.


And renege the potential that a wealthy and developed society of half a billion citizens has to offer, to remain as pushovers to what the US, Russia and China decide? No thanks.

A true political union is absolutely necessary if we want European values and standard of life to survive in the long run in this harsh world of international geopolitics.

This post was edited by zarkadon on Jan 2 2019 06:56pm
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Jan 2 2019 06:58pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 3 Jan 2019 01:47)
The problem isn't freedom of movement among citizens of member states, it's letting certain states become members when they (or the EU) are not ready.

As for non-EU citizens, they should be assigned a member state based on quotas and taking into account certain factors (their personal preference, family members living in a certain place, spoken language, job opportunities, etc) whenever possible. For a few years they'd only be able to work and receive full access to public services and benefits in their state.


It's too late now so it's relevant to freedom of movement, what else ? And yes quotas on qualifications & activity levels is the first thing coming in mind...
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Jan 2 2019 07:09pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 3 Jan 2019 01:55)
And renege the potential that a wealthy and developed society of half a billion citizens has to offer, to remain as pushovers to what the US, Russia and China decide? No thanks.

A true political union is absolutely necessary if we want European values and standard of life to survive in the long run in this harsh world of international geopolitics.


you cant even bring all interests together now as it is, i dont see how more of what isnt working will help us
right now the EU member states are drifting away from each other

the cultures, attitudes etc in europe are way too different to be able to make politics for the whole lot
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Jan 3 2019 01:02pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Jan 3 2019 01:55am)
And renege the potential that a wealthy and developed society of half a billion citizens has to offer, to remain as pushovers to what the US, Russia and China decide? No thanks.

A true political union is absolutely necessary if we want European values and standard of life to survive in the long run in this harsh world of international geopolitics.


We used to call that NATO
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