The problem with your argument is you assume that I have been arguing with allegorical believers but this thread is mostly filled with fundamentalists who either fully or partially believe the bible in a literal sense.

I already know that it's a morality tale in this thread I am challenging the fundamentalists. So if you are not one good for you.
The fundamentalist hypocrytes and cherry pickers who conveniently conceed their literal argument the moment you disassemble their logic and physical impossibilities.

You say a symbol of a snake is so obviously a symbol... in what way is it obvious mind explaining? Nowhere in the bible does it talk about the snake being a symbol or a metaphor. It describes the creation as matter of fact, the snake did this, then God did that etc.
I know the snake isn't real because that's a physically impossible phenomenon. One would need a mouth and a tongue like humans to emulate speech. I also know that there are numerous logical fallacies and other impossibilities which plague the bible leads me to conclude its a fiction. Not because it's obvious in some ambiguous way you are trying to say it's obvious. But based on its evidence or lack there of.

When you take a position of resurrection was real (actual physical event) then you better have some pretty strong and convincing evidence. Because saying bible told me so is cringe non evidence. Which is equivalent of saying wizards exist who can shoot fireballs out of their hands because a storybook told me so.

This post was edited by addone on Aug 12 2023 07:23pm

You certainly don't do a very good job at ignoring my posts, whoever you are.



Psalm 14:1

The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.

The thing is, the problem doesn't lie whether or not you think God exists. You already know he does. The problem is that you are rebellious against God. Even if your corrupt demands for a miracle are met that still won't change the core of the problem. Care to take a good guess what that problem is? Sin.

How are you going to settle the issue you have that you are rebellious against God and do not want Jesus to be king over your life?

The Bible does contain both real historical references alongside allegories, so both are true in differing passages. It's a whole field of study called hermeneutics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_hermeneutics

The snake is used pretty much universally as a symbol of treachery and deceit (alongside other meanings - the snake is very common). The Bible isn't written for toddlers so it doesn't need to spell it out for you like a child. If you just talk to any pastor or priest or whatever and ask them the meaning of the snake they'll tell you. It's self evident that a snake can't actually speak a language.

You should study more biblical hermeneutics if you have more questions about its teachings and meanings, I'm not an expert on the topic. But it's an entire field of study that takes years of study to unpack. People have been doing it for centuries and there is no universal consensus on every meaning.

For the resurrection, I rely on solely the trust and faith in the witnesses who testified to it's occurrence. Of course I don't have proof but I don't need it since I have faith in their testimony. This is much like a witness to a crime - the witness testimony is evidence in itself for the crime, even if no other physical evidence or proof exists.

This post was edited by El1te on Aug 12 2023 10:51pm

LOL hermeneutics!! Christian apologists telling you what the bible should mean according to their own exclusive interpretation lol.
Then for extra points these "experts" disagree amongst themselves what the bible actually means. Peak comedy right there.





This post was edited by addone on Aug 13 2023 12:31am

Who are you? Have I seen you post before? All you theists are so alike. Since you have no argument I can safely ignore your post.

Monkey boy still only attacking frauds from centuries ago that have nothing to do with anything.

dam yo ignorant boi of your own religion, australopithecus afarensis also known as lucy is from 1974
yo dont even know what centuries means do ya boi........

I already covered a couple of your bs examples and proved they don't do anything for your argument. Posting more examples of a refuted argument accomplishes nothing, you've still been refuted.

you havent covered chit all you do is wiggle your ears ............... monkeys wiggle their ears..........here EEEEK EEEEEEK