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Sry for link and not video, cant find an embeddable source. Marco Rubio hits child in head with football. Prepare for this to be frontpage news lol

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Over 70 years ago means it isn't valid as an erosion of our rights over time? And the guy wasn't engaged in interstate commerce, he was growing crops for consumption by animals on his own farm. Congress should never have a say in how a person chooses to feed himself.

If we ever come to need the 2nd amendment, it will be the military - with actual machine guns - that does the oppressing.

Tell me more about standards of living growth, Mr Wealth Gap.

Kelo v New London allowed the government to condemn unblighted private property not for public good, but for private benefit. It is absolutely theft.


Okay, so the SCOTUS made some pretty bad rulings. They did Citizens United as well which completely ignored precedent and made elections less free, you forgot to mention that.

But these are instances that seem to affect like four individuals. Like I said, I can get better weapons than the police have right now. I have friends with machine guns. They don't have helicopters, but it is only because they can't afford one. That is just economies of scale at work. Also, I think our army would mutiny before they attacked American civilians outright unless they were engaging in some pretty heinous activity, like the Branch Davidians or w/e where you had sex-slavery of underaged girls + massive accumulation of guns in a compound + religious devotion etc.

Compared to the great advanced in rights these four cases are nothing in relevance. Think of the Civil Rights Act, Americans with Disabilities Act, Violence Against Women act, plus things like women's suffrage, the ending of chattel slavery and eventually the ending of segregation and Jim Crow, marriage equality, the massive growth of the American middle class and the economic prosperity that created....

One person having trouble with the government because he was suspected of bootlegging stuff or GOP-signed gun control pales in comparison to the transgressions that has been remedied over time. Thinking otherwise means you're a (christian) white male whose shockingly out of touch.

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Okay, so the SCOTUS made some pretty bad rulings. They did Citizens United as well which completely ignored precedent and made elections less free, you forgot to mention that.

But these are instances that seem to affect like four individuals. Like I said, I can get better weapons than the police have right now. I have friends with machine guns. They don't have helicopters, but it is only because they can't afford one. That is just economies of scale at work. Also, I think our army would mutiny before they attacked American civilians outright unless they were engaging in some pretty heinous activity, like the Branch Davidians or w/e where you had sex-slavery of underaged girls + massive accumulation of guns in a compound + religious devotion etc.

Compared to the great advanced in rights these four cases are nothing in relevance. Think of the Civil Rights Act, Americans with Disabilities Act, Violence Against Women act, plus things like women's suffrage, the ending of chattel slavery and eventually the ending of segregation and Jim Crow, marriage equality, the massive growth of the American middle class and the economic prosperity that created....

One person having trouble with the government because he was suspected of bootlegging stuff or GOP-signed gun control pales in comparison to the transgressions that has been remedied over time. Thinking otherwise means you're a white male whose shockingly out of touch.


CU expanded liberty.

We are all being oppressed to one extent or another. Just because some people are 3%ers doesn't mean everyone else's rights aren't being eroded.

You're not scoring any points with me on CRA1964, VAWA and ADA.

Look at you and your white guilt.
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Money buys freedom, who would have thought?

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CU expanded liberty.

We are all being oppressed to one extent or another. Just because some people are 3%ers doesn't mean everyone else's rights aren't being eroded.

You're not scoring any points with me on CRA1964, VAWA and ADA.

Look at you and your white guilt.


CU expanded liberty for the top few hundred political donors. For everybody else it limited access to their representatives, and limited their voice. If money is speech, then you only get as much speech as you have in your walet which is not how the system should work, or was intended to work.

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Money buys freedom, who would have thought?



CU expanded liberty for the top few hundred political donors. For everybody else it limited access to their representatives, and limited their voice. If money is speech, then you only get as much speech as you have in your walet which is not how the system should work, or was intended to work.


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Wet concrete causes rain!


Well the most free place on Earth right now is Somalia, and it's hardly on its way to a utopia.
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Well the most free place on Earth right now is Somalia, and it's hardly on its way to a utopia.


Well the most regulated place on Earth right now is North Korea and it's hard... think you get the point..

While Somalia is far, far from great now, it's improved vastly in many areas over the period when the marxist sadists had control of it.
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Well the most regulated place on Earth right now is North Korea and it's hard... think you get the point..

While Somalia is far, far from great now, it's improved vastly in many areas over the period when the marxist sadists had control of it.


Which is why I said it's not on its way. It will be an interesting experiment though.

It's hardly controvertial that the more money you have, the more free you are. If you have enough money you can get away with murder, and you get justice much easier if somebody else murders you.
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CU expanded liberty for the top few hundred political donors. For everybody else it limited access to their representatives, and limited their voice. If money is speech, then you only get as much speech as you have in your walet which is not how the system should work, or was intended to work.


I'm sorry, did you lose your Representative's phone number and mailing address? I have my state rep and senator's personal phone numbers in my cell phone and I've never made a financial contribution to a campaign. I also speak with my US rep's office when a concern arises.

/e I take that back, I did contribute to the election campaign for state rep of someone outside my district.

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