I worship Jesus Christ who is the Word of God.

Satan said the same thing. Talk is cheap unfortunately. the gift of "jesus" is living in the present minded enough to spread joy and true love.

This post was edited by lodd222 on May 25 2022 05:32pm

Where does the while also being greater than the bible come in? You quoted the scripture yourself that all scripture is God-breathed.

Also, worship an old book? How do you mean we worship an old book? last I checked it was Jesus who deserves all the glory.

If you want the entirety of The Bible to fall apart then all you need to do is disprove the resurrection of Jesus ever happened. If you cannot disprove the resurrection then this discussion is meaningless. Can you disprove the resurrection in your next post?

The bible is a collection of various scripture composed and or edited/translated by people who are not mentioned in scripture or the bible itself, scripture is allegedly the work of imperfect men inspired by god.
The bible contains much prophecy as does any book, so does personal testimony or art by truly good men/women.

The story of "jesus" or a benevolent god family is not limited to the bible or scripture. Most have made an idle out of the bible. Why would you worship a past tense record more than the living testimony that is also the freedom to do good?
You remind me of the type of jews that would worship the ten commandments or the stone itself instead of god who gave it to you. Big difference.
Endless bible quoting w/o personal explanation, context, & without personality is the opposite of what the bible itself implies to do as a christian.

It's not hard to wake up, you choose to stay asleep.



This post was edited by lodd222 on May 26 2022 09:10am

muscara. However i disagree w/ jesuis as a shroom. As i said before satan will call himself jesus, thats part of the masquerading or deception as a muscara.

they say they worship the son yet they wear sunglasses, all art of war to control both ends ~the atheists and christianity through book worshipping.

This post was edited by lodd222 on May 26 2022 09:54am

Okay so you can't disprove the resurrection so I'll keep Jesus as my LORD and saviour.

I have no idea what your view or argument is even about. I'm spending more time trying to decipher your enigmatic posts. Where is your simple one liner, straight to the point claim? Where is your backing up with examples of how we ourselves have done whatever you are trying to claim? You will get nowhere fast if you remain cryptic as you are.

No you're not, you're trolling:

Says jesus is his lord and savior, meanwhile jesus spoke in many cryptic parables according to the bible or in the bible.

spiritual drunken ness is your problem. Luke warm christians i think your bible calls it.

Talk is cheap, i see through your bullshivick.

This post was edited by lodd222 on May 26 2022 04:20pm

Why would I troll? I am being completely and utterly serious.

Go on then, what do you mean by spiritual drunken and can you give me an example of this?

Talk is cheap? We're on a forum, what else can we do?

the word of god may be alive but the bible is not the alive word. the bible is the dead works which requires a live spirit to discern, in that spirit of prophecy it is then made live,scripture itself confirms this notion. the alive word made the spirit and man which then makes true testimony(can include bible). Jesus made testimony by being the live word. they documented this testimony via scripture and then in the bible as a collection of scriptural works. the spirit of discernment(holy spirit) helps you to understand what is most accurate vs altered or (untrue).

So basically the bible is a collection of scripture by the work of men inspired by god's spirit. No where in scripture does it mention composing scripture for a bible. scripture within the bible itself states that scripture is good for reproof, editing, and challenging wisdom. Scripture within the bible says that jesus did enough things to fill up all books which means the bible is not everything.
Jesus didn't preach from the bible because he had the living spirit of truth which is expected of all true christians. satan wants you w/o the spirit worshipping the book so you fail to achieve salvation, repentence, and understanding that you will pay if you sin. Jesus died so you could be forgiven, not so you wouldn't pay a price. If you sin you pay that price your consciousness and the holy spirit make you feel it. Sexual sins beguile the conscious, moral law is still in place jesus didn't die so you could be immoral, he died so you could be immortal and moral. the comforter is there to improve the soul and manage sin instead of just living in old testament fear or inaction. Greater evil required greater action and thus remedy for failure(sin).

They worship the bible only because it's a satanic trick that also allows people who don't have the "holy spirit" to be decieved.
If bible or scripture is correct in its most relevant assertions then technically you are jesus or "jesuis" if you have the holy spirit that he would have left for you. I would confirm this notion.
So it would be silly to worship jesus if you are connected by one of jesus 7 spirits. This is why he said dont bow or externalize him, but rather be one with him as a brother. Externalizing god especially by a book or bible is satanism. however, to worship jesus alone is to neglect the gift of the holy spirit which was left so you would not be alone.
They worshipped jesus before the holy spirit was made manifest by his defeat of satan. The holy spirit was the remedy for satan's disobedient spirit as a former messenger and son of god.
therefore you cannot blaspheme it and be forgiven because it does not have agency to forgive you, if it had agency or free will apart from god's infrastructure then it could be like satan which it cannot since it was the remedy against sin. True Jesus worship took place before he died but during his arrival. The holy spirit(comforter) was allegedly his gift you were/are to worship, not jesus himself though jesus himself made it possible. Jesus was intercession for YHWH, the holy spirit was your guide since neither jesus or YHWH could dwell with man indefinitely especially after his death(if bible/scripture is correct about that claim)

So now you can see, it depends alot about the integrity of scriptures claims. However if the spirit is with you then scripture and some parts of the bible can help you to see and reaffirm that satan is ruler of the earth. Scripture/bible fails at specifying many things including sins of the body, outlining sins, has no images and is a very rought outline overall. technically you should be writing your own scripture and testament in a "do greater things than me" fashion unless a specific scripture says not to add(if you believe it).
The true church of jesus would then be a much more concise bible detailing and calibrating the inner world to the outer but instead you just have rehashes of the same thing w/ no real filling in of the gaps which lends to the fact its a very controlled way to limit your view of truth.

The bible is mostly now a way to book control christians while aetheism and evol-ution is a science book way for the unbelievers.
'catan' has both ends covered unfortunately. It's called "go-spell" for a reason ~ Don't buy into the repetition of select fabricated verses either that many churches use for song.
Song is living its something thats spontaneous to only have rehearsal and reptition is again to be dead in the spirit(yeast or leaven or sin creates loops).

The bible is obviously prophecy however living testament, art, and any book for that matter can also be if one has that spirit of discernment. It's just easy to use the bible because so many are familiar with it vs a book or concept they may have never heard/read culturally speaking.

The "gift" of jesus is living in the "present" in order to do good and prevent evil, not worshipping dead works from the past in of themselves(bible thomping).
Unfortunately bible worship has allowed hell to pour in but less than scientism for sure.
bible is the right, atheism is the left. both are flawed.

TLDR worshipping the bible is like worshipping the stone or the commandments over God who gave them.
You do not need to know the bible, or jesus' name to be of the holy spirit or a benevolent/good person doing the work of the true god as a spiritual son of god.
What i'm suggesting is that the true church of god would be adding detail to the bible as scripture lest you say the spirit is dead and man can no longer be living in truth and good works.
This is self evident to anyone of the true god imo, especially the saints.

This post was edited by lodd222 on May 27 2022 10:31pm