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Oct 30 2018 06:03pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Oct 30 2018 06:47pm)
I think Republicans seem to forget that he barely won in their couple years of meme glory

will he benefit from a low bar? yes but he keeps handing democrats credibility to their claims that he is terrible when he doesn't have to

let them run on "trump bad" but no he has to hand them stuff like this which is actually a really big deal and gives them something substantive to talk about and fight against

He's at a real risk of being neutered with the house, governor races, and possibly the senate

no room for error here and he hands the dems something as big as this on the last lap

could I be wrong? yeah I'm wrong all the time but I don't think I'm wrong about how big of self imposed fumble this one is


Say it with me: lame duck.
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Oct 30 2018 06:05pm
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 30 2018 05:03pm)
Say it with me: lame duck.


they are caught up in the couple years of "winning"

I think some of the younger conservatives here newer to politics don't fully understand what they are facing if there is in fact a blue wave
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Oct 30 2018 06:34pm
Quote (Beowulf @ 31 Oct 2018 00:47)
let them run on "trump bad" but no he has to hand them stuff like this which is actually a really big deal and gives them something substantive to talk about and fight against


I agree and disagree at the same time. Yes, it does give the dems something substantive to talk about and fight against, and therefore, this topic will almost surely be a net negative for the upcoming midterms. In the long run, however, I think that talking about illegal immigration is a winning topic for the GOP and a losing one for the Democrats. Policy-wise, Trump and the GOP are simply right on the issue of birthright citizenship.

They should simply adopt a similar rule like here in Germany: a newborn is granted citizenship if either his parents have citizenship, or if his parents have been living in the country legally and without a criminal record for at least 8 years and are in possession of an ulimited residence permit.

this way, jus soli can be upheld for every law-abiding resident who is in the country legally, but citizenship is no longer handed out to chinese or arab "birth tourists", or to the offspring of illegal immigrants.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 30 2018 06:34pm
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Oct 30 2018 06:36pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 31 2018 11:34am)
I agree and disagree at the same time. Yes, it does give the dems something substantive to talk about and fight against, and therefore, this topic will almost surely be a net negative for the upcoming midterms. In the long run, however, I think that talking about illegal immigration is a winning topic for the GOP and a losing one for the Democrats. Policy-wise, Trump and the GOP are simply right on the issue of birthright citizenship.

They should simply adopt a similar rule like here in Germany: a newborn is granted citizenship if either his parents have citizenship, or if his parents have been living in the country legally and without a criminal record for at least 8 years and are in possession of an ulimited residence permit.

this way, jus soli can be upheld for every law-abiding resident who is in the country legally, but citizenship is no longer handed out to chinese or arab "birth tourists", or to the offspring of illegal immigrants.


I think this is the best way to go.
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Oct 30 2018 06:44pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ 31 Oct 2018 01:36)
I think this is the best way to go.


well, it is the best way to go if those qualifications are actually enforced. which our fucking weaksauce hippie authorities in Germany are - of course - failing to do. :rolleyes:

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 30 2018 06:44pm
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Oct 30 2018 08:22pm
MSNBC idiot host: Trump is "sending a message to white nationalists" by "tweeting about baseball or talking about his bad hair day."

https://twitter.com/ARmastrangelo/status/1057418223291908096
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Oct 31 2018 02:29am
Quote (Beowulf @ Oct 31 2018 01:05am)
they are caught up in the couple years of "winning"

I think some of the younger conservatives here newer to politics don't fully understand what they are facing if there is in fact a blue wave


Dear Diary...
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Oct 31 2018 07:46am
Quote (Beowulf @ Oct 30 2018 06:47pm)
I think Republicans seem to forget that he barely won in their couple years of meme glory

will he benefit from a low bar? yes but he keeps handing democrats credibility to their claims that he is terrible when he doesn't have to

let them run on "trump bad" but no he has to hand them stuff like this which is actually a really big deal and gives them something substantive to talk about and fight against

He's at a real risk of being neutered with the house, governor races, and possibly the senate

no room for error here and he hands the dems something as big as this on the last lap

could I be wrong? yeah I'm wrong all the time but I don't think I'm wrong about how big of self imposed fumble this one is


The Republican odds of keeping the Senate are almost identical to Dem odds of taking the House.

4:1 favorites at least.
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Oct 31 2018 07:50am
Quote (Beowulf @ Oct 30 2018 07:05pm)
they are caught up in the couple years of "winning"

I think some of the younger conservatives here newer to politics don't fully understand what they are facing if there is in fact a blue wave


Quote (EA7 @ Oct 31 2018 03:29am)
Dear Diary...


This made me lol pretty hard.
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Oct 31 2018 02:27pm
media narrative:
  • Trump is anti-semitic
  • Republicans are anti-semitic
  • Trump caused the synagogue shooting
  • Jewish leaders told Trump he wasn't welcome in Pittsburgh

reality:
  • Trump's family is half jewish
  • Democrats have far higher more anti-semitism
  • The synagogue shooter was vehemently anti-Trump
  • The rabbi from the synagogue invited Trump in Pittsburgh
  • The "jewish leaders" that told him to stay away was a PAC run by George Soros's son

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