pretty shit

"see the stock market is going up up up. tariffs work guys. people buy because htey know a businessman in the whitehouse means gains gains gains. inflation, what that? bubble? lol you're clearly a shill!" maga kids when there's low volatility

"1-3% fluctuations are fine. it's just the tariffs working on china. investors are alarmists. bond yield inversion, sounds like liberal BS, i know they teach sjw economics in college these days. we need to lose a bit to avoid a bubble bursting, trump even said so in the primaries." maga kids when there's high volatility.

looks like where a fed adjustment from crawling down to the 22k djj range, which for me is still a bit too high. i think we'd be better off in the 20-21k range. long story short is tarrifs, pending hopes of trade deals, Mueller, and many other factors are making this an incredibly volatile time to invest. for us youngins its not like we'll lose anything if we don't sell. but for older people and stock pickers i'd be sweating looking at this and trying to time a cash out. worse yet long term bonds aren't an easy off ramp like they were a year or so ago when i divested my father. he got into what now look like some sweatheart bonds.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 6 2018 02:45pm

professor x over here making dividends

id love to buy into and 18k dow for a year or so tbh. i dont see the link between the markets and domestic production and dont think a bit of bubble deflation would kill the domestic economy. somehow the market, which is an economy indicator, has become the economy. people inherently link it to the success of the economy which isn't correct. we can deflate without a recession. but will we? likely not. and im unsure of how algorithm controlled indexes would handle such a deflationary period, massive selloffs don't benefit the people who have their whole savings in such funds.

Its annoying, we've truly entered a world where facts don't matter anymore, only the appearance of facts, which explains Trump's success so far since he is more showman than result.

I've been expecting a student loan bubble to collapse soon, its only a matter of time before the owners of the loans decide that they are not profitable and sell them as part of sketchy CDO's. Then again, the government provides the backing for that money so it could play out differently than 2008.

i read an article from Huffpost over covefe this morning that Tucker apparently said Trump has failed and hasn't provided any of the campaign promises, has lost the congress, and doesnt understand the legislative process. apparently said his only role thus far has been a conversation starter. eeeek

on student loans tho completely agree. my guess is to prevent it loan companies will open up the terms on them to drop payments down to a tiny amount over a massive term. even a barista can afford 50$/month over 40 years. smart people will pay them off faster but this would mean even the under achievers can handle payments. not sure on the legalities of that tho. it might require company A to buy company B's loan to restructure like that. idk



ty for confirming Obama under achieved while Trump has performed admirably.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 7 2018 07:31am

first of all, one does typically observe higher growth rates coming out of a fresh recession than late into a mature economic cycle. the trump economy in 2017/18 keeping up the pace of the 2010/11 recovery period is actually no small feat, even if it looks unimpressive in a chart with a line.
second, the chart clearly shows that economic performance was below average (compared with the trend represented by the red line) during the presidential campaign, when markets had to fear Clinton continuing Obama's economic policies, and was above average once Trump took office and started implementing very business-friendly policies.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 7 2018 08:09am

Oh you don't like my vector ?
Lets hope we don't get a major recession in 2019, helped by poor societal & foreign policy choices.