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Oct 30 2018 04:57pm
Quote (IceMage @ 30 Oct 2018 18:17)
http://i64.tinypic.com/imnupy.png

Looks like whitey Trump supporters and Uncle "Candace Owens" Tom tried to take advantage of Kanye. Shame.


Quote (Brian_D @ 30 Oct 2018 18:23)
I wonder how much the uncle toms were paid?


two privileged lefties once again using racial pejoratives against minorities who dont act the “way” privileged lefties expect them to act

sad to see such rhetoric but not surprising given it’s these two users

reported, btw
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Oct 30 2018 05:02pm
Related to the Blexit thing, an interesting thread by a historian:

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1056965284110704640


Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 30 2018 05:32pm)
seems like mixed messaging, isn't Kanye's general narrative right in line with Blexit? could he just finally be aware of the ramifications of tying himself to people like Owens when it comes to the black community?


don't know don't care... I just like shitting on the Trump cult
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Oct 30 2018 05:05pm
Quote (excellence @ Oct 30 2018 04:57pm)
two privileged lefties once again using racial pejoratives against minorities who dont act the “way” privileged lefties expect them to act

sad to see such rhetoric but not surprising given it’s these two users

reported, btw


false lefties expect and encourage minorities fighting amonst themselves to dodge responsibility of the state of the ghetto :lol:

Quote (IceMage @ Oct 30 2018 05:02pm)
Related to the Blexit thing, an interesting thread by a historian:

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1056965284110704640




don't know don't care... I just like shitting on the Trump cult


im waiting for the 3rd act swap by Kanye to capitalize on leaving the right, basically Omarosa but without the nothingburger recordings and people will actually care. as much as it pains me, i can actually see Kris Kardashian suggesting Kanye to do this all along.
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Oct 30 2018 05:19pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 31 2018 12:05am)
im waiting for the 3rd act swap by Kanye to capitalize on leaving the right, basically Omarosa but without the nothingburger recordings and people will actually care. as much as it pains me, i can actually see Kris Kardashian suggesting Kanye to do this all along.


At this point I'm willing to say that it depends on who's in office and perhaps, when taken a chance, who rides the wave of the future.. Although I have to say that I find the analogy to be a bit too corny to go with :d

/e then again, for highest sensational value.. Yes, abandon Trump

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Oct 30 2018 05:23pm
While I think the birthright citizenship has to go, it should be done in a smarter way. This move from Trump seems like an attempt to galvanize his base and drive republican turnout in the midterms, but I doubt that this is a winning strategy for these midterms in this political climate (Dems leading the congressional ballot by almost 9%, low approval ratings for Trump, Dem base very energized). Just keeping quiet and doing rallies nonstop would have been the smarter strategy. You can always roll out this EO after the midterms.
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Oct 30 2018 05:26pm
Quote (excellence @ Oct 30 2018 03:57pm)
two privileged lefties once again using racial pejoratives against minorities who dont act the “way” privileged lefties expect them to act

sad to see such rhetoric but not surprising given it’s these two users

reported, btw


I wonder how much they were paid tho?
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Oct 30 2018 05:28pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 30 2018 04:23pm)
While I think the birthright citizenship has to go, it should be done in a smarter way. This move from Trump seems like an attempt to galvanize his base and drive republican turnout in the midterms, but I doubt that this is a winning strategy for these midterms in this political climate (Dems leading the congressional ballot by almost 9%, low approval ratings for Trump, Dem base very energized). Just keeping quiet and doing rallies nonstop would have been the smarter strategy. You can always roll out this EO after the midterms.


right wing terrorists running around out there didn't help and this definitely doesn't help, now the dems screwing up with Kav and virtually having no message seems long gone

their bad deeds covered by the 48 hour cycle and Trump hands them the golden egg to not only run with till the midterms but into 2020

this extreme shit that excites the base is a loss at this point he already has those nuthuggers filling the arenas wherever he goes to chant lock her up, he ain't winning over anyone sensible with shit like this and just energizes the shit outta opposition
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Oct 30 2018 05:39pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-proposal-to-end-birthright-citizenship-is-unconstitutional/2018/10/30/4615ab5c-dc85-11e8-b3f0-62607289efee_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3d8f7cb04d48

Kellyanne Conway's husband putting out an op-ed with Obama's former solicitor general on why Trump's proposal is unconstitutional. Good times.
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Oct 30 2018 05:40pm
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right wing terrorists running around out there didn't help and this definitely doesn't help, now the dems screwing up with Kav and virtually having no message seems long gone

their bad deeds covered by the 48 hour cycle and Trump hands them the golden egg to not only run with till the midterms but into 2020

this extreme shit that excites the base is a loss at this point he already has those nuthuggers filling the arenas wherever he goes to chant lock her up, he ain't winning over anyone sensible with shit like this and just energizes the shit outta opposition


Im not so sure about that calculus. The democratic base is already energized as fuck, they already are in a territory where marginal returns on further mobilization are miniscule. The republican base is lagging behind in enthusiasm until now - as usual in midterms! - so that additional mobilization on their side will yield higher marginal returns. The big question are moderate swing-voters - what's their mobilization, how are they leaning this time around, how will this affect them?

Since early 2016, everyone has been saying that it's a strategic mistake by Trump to only play to his base and to never cater to moderates - but this strategy has won him the White House and worked out fine so far. I do indeed think that it's not gonna work this time around, I do think that this birthright EO will be a net negative, but I wouldnt bet a ton on it, and I dont think the downside will be as huge as you seem to think either.
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Oct 30 2018 05:47pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 30 2018 04:40pm)
Im not so sure about that calculus. The democratic base is already energized as fuck, they already are in a territory where marginal returns on further mobilization are miniscule. The republican base is lagging behind in enthusiasm until now - as usual in midterms! - so that additional mobilization on their side will yield higher marginal returns. The big question are moderate swing-voters - what's their mobilization, how are they leaning this time around, how will this affect them?

Since early 2016, everyone has been saying that it's a strategic mistake by Trump to only play to his base and to never cater to moderates - but this strategy has won him the White House and worked out fine so far. I do indeed think that it's not gonna work this time around, I do think that this birthright EO will be a net negative, but I wouldnt bet a ton on it, and I dont think the downside will be as huge as you seem to think either.


I think Republicans seem to forget that he barely won in their couple years of meme glory

will he benefit from a low bar? yes but he keeps handing democrats credibility to their claims that he is terrible when he doesn't have to

let them run on "trump bad" but no he has to hand them stuff like this which is actually a really big deal and gives them something substantive to talk about and fight against

He's at a real risk of being neutered with the house, governor races, and possibly the senate

no room for error here and he hands the dems something as big as this on the last lap

could I be wrong? yeah I'm wrong all the time but I don't think I'm wrong about how big of self imposed fumble this one is
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