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Oct 29 2018 08:12am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 29 2018 02:41am)
So a billionaire investment capitalist can’t be considered a Jewish leader because...?


Why would he?
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Oct 29 2018 08:27am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Oct 29 2018 04:34am)
Israel's foreign ministry issued a statement denouncing U.S. billionaire George Soros :rofl:

IS ISRAEL ANTI SEMITIC TOO ?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-hungary-soros/israel-backs-hungary-says-financier-soros-is-a-threat-idUSKBN19V1J4



Yes. They regularly shit on the orthodox.
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Oct 29 2018 09:20am
Quote (EndlessSky @ 28 Oct 2018 00:07)
Its a lie. Its nothing even remotely unusual.


What do you mean by this? You're acknowledging Trump lied? And what do you mean it's not remotely unusual?
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Oct 29 2018 10:24am
Quote (ThatAlex @ Oct 29 2018 11:20am)
What do you mean by this? You're acknowledging Trump lied? And what do you mean it's not remotely unusual?


He does lie and exaggerate a lot. Sometimes its for entertainment hyperbole. Sometimes its a calculated political lie. Sometimes I think (probably this) he just doesn't care about precise language and says things to say things.

The two disgusting problems with the media today are lack of respect for dignity and proportionality.

The media assumes a bad motive with everything Trump does. If the media just said "Trump said this but other sources show it isn't true for such and such reason" the media would have much higher approval across the board. If you're not on the left and you read it, you can feel the animosity just as you would if you listened to most of what Hannity says.

The media also commits sins of proportionality, devoting lots of time to truly unimportant things and vice versa.
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Oct 29 2018 10:59am
Quote (EndlessSky @ 29 Oct 2018 11:24)
He does lie and exaggerate a lot. Sometimes its for entertainment hyperbole. Sometimes its a calculated political lie. Sometimes I think (probably this) he just doesn't care about precise language and says things to say things.

The two disgusting problems with the media today are lack of respect for dignity and proportionality.

The media assumes a bad motive with everything Trump does. If the media just said "Trump said this but other sources show it isn't true for such and such reason" the media would have much higher approval across the board. If you're not on the left and you read it, you can feel the animosity just as you would if you listened to most of what Hannity says.

The media also commits sins of proportionality, devoting lots of time to truly unimportant things and vice versa.


Well, kudos to you for admitting the President is a liar. It's in plain sight, so I appreciate you for saying it like it is instead of trying to play 33D mental gymnastics with his words.

Agreed on the media. But I think their number 1 objective is to sell clicks and views. I think sometimes people mistake CNN or other media stories as being "left" when in fact they are being sensationalist. Now, the two certainly aren't mutually exclusive, and CNN is definitely left-leaning, but anti-Trump is what sells right now. They aren't as desperate to push a narrative as they are to generate news coverage. During the Trump-era, pushing an anti-Trump narrative is what generates news, so they are one in the same.

As far as this particular story, I don't think Trump is lieing - ie being intentionally dishonest. I think he sees a fundamental difference between tariffs like the steel and aluminum tariffs designed to be protectionist in nature vs tarriffs on China and Mexico to try and generate leverage to create more favorable trade deals.

Trump sees the latter tariffs as temporary means to an end rather than a 'pure' tariff, hence the distinction in his mind and his confusion why people refer to the China and Mexico dealings as tariffs.
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Oct 29 2018 08:34pm
Sarah Sanders today: “You guys have a huge responsibility to play in the divisive nature of this country, when 90 percent of the coverage of everything this president does is negative despite the fact that the country is going extremely well, despite the fact that this president is delivering on exactly what he said he was going to do if elected. And he was elected by the overwhelming majority of 63 million Americans who came out and supported him and wanted to see his policies enacted."

What does Sanders mean by "overwhelming majority?" That an overwhelming majority of American voters voted for Trump in the 2016 election or an overwhelming majority of the 63 million Trump voters supported Trump in the election?
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Oct 29 2018 08:39pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Oct 29 2018 10:34pm)
Sarah Sanders today: “You guys have a huge responsibility to play in the divisive nature of this country, when 90 percent of the coverage of everything this president does is negative despite the fact that the country is going extremely well, despite the fact that this president is delivering on exactly what he said he was going to do if elected. And he was elected by the overwhelming majority of 63 million Americans who came out and supported him and wanted to see his policies enacted."

What does Sanders mean by "overwhelming majority?" That an overwhelming majority of American voters voted for Trump in the 2016 election or an overwhelming majority of the 63 million Trump voters supported Trump in the election?


Would say you're looking way to hard into it and she just ment that a lot of Americans.
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Oct 29 2018 08:43pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ 30 Oct 2018 03:34)
Sarah Sanders today: “You guys have a huge responsibility to play in the divisive nature of this country, when 90 percent of the coverage of everything this president does is negative despite the fact that the country is going extremely well, despite the fact that this president is delivering on exactly what he said he was going to do if elected. And he was elected by the overwhelming majority of 63 million Americans who came out and supported him and wanted to see his policies enacted."

What does Sanders mean by "overwhelming majority?" That an overwhelming majority of American voters voted for Trump in the 2016 election or an overwhelming majority of the 63 million Trump voters supported Trump in the election?


its simply verbal gymnastics to get around the fact that trump's election victory was very narrow and that he did not have a strong mandate from the american people.
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Oct 29 2018 08:46pm
collision confirmed
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