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Oct 27 2018 12:49pm
greatest magic trick of all time, the tariffs don't exist
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“We don’t have tariffs anywhere,” President Trump said in a recent interview with The Wall Street Journal. In fact, his administration this year has placed levies on more than $300 billion in imports.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/where-do-we-have-tariffs-trump-asks-heres-a-list-1540416617
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Oct 27 2018 12:58pm
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So was the gulf of tonkin false flag but the people saying it turned out to be right.

Gulf of Tonkin Incident
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident occurred in 1964 whereby the CIA conducted operations reported by the NSA as North Vietnamese aggression towards the United States. The incident was used as a pretext for the United States to escalate Vietnam War efforts. During the operations on August 2nd, 1964, the USS Maddox provoked the North Vietnamese by entering restricted waters. Then on August 4th, 1964, it was reported that North Vietnam attacked two US ships, USS Maddox and USS Turner Joy. The claim that the ships were attacked was later discovered to be false and in 2005 declassified documents revealed that both the CIA and NSA were involved in the manufacture of the incidents that led to US air strikes on August 7th, 1964.


Was it a false flag or a fabrication? If no attacks happened its just a fabricated incident.
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Oct 27 2018 01:01pm
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Was it a false flag or a fabrication? If no attacks happened its just a fabricated incident.


If it's used to start a war I'd consider it both a false flag and a fabrication.
Look into operation northwood, I read all the declassified data and what was proposed was horrific.
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Oct 27 2018 01:30pm
Caravan will help Trump, but Magabomber and alt-right synagogue shooter will hurt him.

Dems will gain in House and Senate.
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Oct 27 2018 01:33pm
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Oct 27 2018 11:04pm
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I thought this had to be an out of context quote. But nope. It's real
And it's WSJ to boot. If anything, this points more toward delusion than dishonesty because I don't know why he would even try to lie about tarriffs.
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Oct 27 2018 11:07pm
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I thought this had to be an out of context quote. But nope. It's real
And it's WSJ to boot. If anything, this points more toward delusion than dishonesty because I don't know why he would even try to lie about tarriffs.


Its a lie. Its nothing even remotely unusual.
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Oct 28 2018 02:15am
Heres exhibit #2371237 on why we can't have nice things and can't trust the media;
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/10/27/remember-antiquities-act/

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Remember the Antiquities Act Trump despised when he shrank Utah’s Grand Staircase and Bears Ears? Well, he just used that law to create a monument.


Look at the complete lack of nuance and comprehension in an effort to somehow attack Trump no matter how good a thing he does.
When Obama left office, he abused the antiquities act to turn vast oil reserves in Utah and the Arctic into national monuments to block them from oil drilling, motivated by conservationism / global warming but wrapped around ostensible holy native sites. Donald Trump took great pains to carefully restrict the monument declarations to just the native sites while un-declaring the rest. Rather than simply negate Obama's proclamation and set a precedent for a new presidential power to reverse monuments entirely, he used an establish power to trim monuments after lengthy deliberative review by the interior. At no point was Trump opposed to the Antiquities Act in and of itself, but to the way it was being abused by Obama to conduct economic policy instead of monuments.

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“Past administrations have severely abused the purpose, spirit and intent of the century-old law known as the Antiquities Act,” Trump then declared at the Utah Capitol, adding that, “These abuses of the Antiquities Act give enormous power to faraway bureaucrats at the expense of the people who actually live here, work here, and make this place their home.”


Today Donald Trump has declared Camp Nelson to be a national monument in remembrance of african-american union troops who fought in the civil war. Precisely the kind of intended usage of the antiquities act. It doesn't seal off vast swathes of land, it doesn't have any economic impact. Its 525 acres, not the millions in obama's declarations. It has the support instead of opposition of local, state and federal government. Its a well defined monument to a significant cause, with no nebulous 'all land everywhere is holy' beliefs.

So what we have is an example of Trump both acting consistently, appropriately and commendably with his antiquities act. He's show respect to black civil war soldiers. He's unfucking the monuments Obama installed as a backdoor conservationism. And yet the media and liberal critics try to paint this as hypocritical and wrong. They would prefer he didn't make monuments for black troops.
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Oct 28 2018 10:05am
Quote (Goomshill @ 28 Oct 2018 09:15)
Heres exhibit #2371237 on why we can't have nice things and can't trust the media;
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/10/27/remember-antiquities-act/



Look at the complete lack of nuance and comprehension in an effort to somehow attack Trump no matter how good a thing he does.
When Obama left office, he abused the antiquities act to turn vast oil reserves in Utah and the Arctic into national monuments to block them from oil drilling, motivated by conservationism / global warming but wrapped around ostensible holy native sites. Donald Trump took great pains to carefully restrict the monument declarations to just the native sites while un-declaring the rest. Rather than simply negate Obama's proclamation and set a precedent for a new presidential power to reverse monuments entirely, he used an establish power to trim monuments after lengthy deliberative review by the interior. At no point was Trump opposed to the Antiquities Act in and of itself, but to the way it was being abused by Obama to conduct economic policy instead of monuments.



Today Donald Trump has declared Camp Nelson to be a national monument in remembrance of african-american union troops who fought in the civil war. Precisely the kind of intended usage of the antiquities act. It doesn't seal off vast swathes of land, it doesn't have any economic impact. Its 525 acres, not the millions in obama's declarations. It has the support instead of opposition of local, state and federal government. Its a well defined monument to a significant cause, with no nebulous 'all land everywhere is holy' beliefs.

So what we have is an example of Trump both acting consistently, appropriately and commendably with his antiquities act. He's show respect to black civil war soldiers. He's unfucking the monuments Obama installed as a backdoor conservationism. And yet the media and liberal critics try to paint this as hypocritical and wrong. They would prefer he didn't make monuments for black troops.


cut the crap. orange man bad! :angry:
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