so whats the conclusion you draw from this nice tale about privilege? that we should end the merit principle? that we should allow persons with worse performance into top jobs because "they had it harder" and drag the entire society down in the process?

imho, the conclusion is that we must provide more opportunities to underprivileged kids. but if they take the opportunity and run with it or not is still up to them. yes, people who have lived a privileged life from the day they were born sometimes are too arrogant. but in my opinion, we should stay the hell away from the conclusion that the leftists are drawing, we should stay the hell away from quotas and abandoning the meritc principle.


also: who says that it's the poor kid's dad who becomes sick? that could just as well happen to the rich dad.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 19 2017 01:40pm

I'm left wing and I agree with you. Most 'leftists' do. Provide opportunity, hire on merit.

IMO we are starting from the fact the "performance" is the same for the girl and the boy...

So your whole reasoning/rethoric derails it.

Then you go up with your "drag the entire society down in the process" that is so fucking wrong.
Thinking like this and we get back to middle ages.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 19 2017 02:00pm

Your feelings dont change the facts. Removing merit from hiring processes and trying to make outcomes equal regardless of skills would in fact be devastating

Im not talking about this, im talking about this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste

"Merit" is a diversion

I hope your guys reading balrog66 cartoon are able to understand that the girl and the boy have the same initial "performance"...

Deceitful

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 19 2017 02:02pm

One thing that we can do that can help fix the problem is to consider that "merit" isn't a simple numbers game.

A 3.5 GPA from somebody who worked two jobs is far more impressive than a 3.9 from somebody who comes from a privileged background.

Along with what you said, that we need to provide more opportunity for low income students, it would go a very long way to lessening the gap.

maybe the traditional left wing guys. not the "modern left" who prefers women/black/hispanic/muslim quotas and stupid stuff like that.

Herp derp muh privlij

You're conflating the loud minority with the average person.