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Oct 24 2018 12:30pm
the 'Russian state actors and/or trolls trying to cause chaos in the midterms' is one scenario that should be kept in mind, I think
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Oct 24 2018 12:31pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 24 2018 12:28pm)
nobody accidentally sends 8 bombs exclusively to the highest profile liberal targets. The choice of targets is clearly intentional, though thats not enough on its own to know the motive but certainly enough to suggest it.
If someone was just trying to fake ISIS attacks they'd target civilians. Or the military. Or Trump. Or random high profile targets from both parties, or celebrities.
The fact it has targeted only the most high profile liberal targets and especially the ones that are targets of the nutwings but little known to normies like George Soros guarantees that the targeting is intentional.


@bold sure, if someone had coherent thought and especially if the bombs were real and armed.

if however they're a nutso far right fringe lunatic they may have sent bombs to liberals to sent a message, then attempted to frame ISIS for it. either to also harm arabs, or to cover their tracks, or perhaps both. the person is insane afterall.

i'm not saying it IS a far righty, but your statement that it cant be is silly to me. we're dealing with an insane person here that clearly has mixed messaging baked into the cake given the liberal targets vs ISIS contradiction.

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 24 2018 12:30pm)
the 'Russian state actors and/or trolls trying to cause chaos in the midterms' is one scenario that should be kept in mind, I think


now theres tinfoil i can get on board with, explains the contradiction.

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Oct 24 2018 12:33pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 24 2018 01:31pm)
now theres tinfoil i can get on board with, explains the contradiction.


also explains the spelling errors.
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Oct 24 2018 12:34pm
Quote (Mangix @ Oct 24 2018 12:33pm)
also explains the spelling errors.


actually i'd say that points to a southerner, a russian would use google.
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Oct 24 2018 12:37pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 24 Oct 2018 20:30)
the 'Russian state actors and/or trolls trying to cause chaos in the midterms' is one scenario that should be kept in mind, I think


I was already thinking about the same.

targetting high-profile liberals would direct the blame towards right-wing extremists, putting ISIS signs on them directs the blame towards arabs. both these things together dont make any sense. so in the end, all this creates is total confusion, and undisciplined partisans will jump on the opportunity to blame the other side for it.

either this was the work of a person who is completely crazy and scarily incompetent, or it was the work of professional trolls seeking to sow chaos and distrust. in the latter case, that would most certainly be russians.

but yeah, I wouldnt discount the possibility of right-wing nutjobs yet.

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Oct 24 2018 12:39pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 24 2018 01:30pm)
the 'Russian state actors and/or trolls trying to cause chaos in the midterms' is one scenario that should be kept in mind, I think


Does Hillary being a big meanie to Putin in 2011 still justify anything the Russians do in 2018?
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Oct 24 2018 12:41pm
Quote (IceMage @ 24 Oct 2018 20:39)
Does Hillary being a big meanie to Putin in 2011 still justify anything the Russians do in 2018?


it's not about hillary, it's about amplifying tensions, distrust, partisanship and paranoia.
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Oct 24 2018 12:43pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 24 2018 12:39pm)
Does Hillary being a big meanie to Putin in 2011 still justify anything the Russians do in 2018?


Is an eye for an eye ever justified? I look for motive, the rationale behind rational actors. Not their morality.
I'd like to figure out the motive behind these attacks, but the only thing clear is that nothing is clear yet.
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Oct 24 2018 12:47pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 24 2018 01:43pm)
Is an eye for an eye ever justified? I look for motive, the rationale behind rational actors. Not their morality.
I'd like to figure out the motive behind these attacks, but the only thing clear is that nothing is clear yet.


Hillary's milquetoast statements in 2011 and the Russian interference in 2016 wasn't an eye for an eye.

But I'm just asking if 2018 interference by the Russians can be justified or explained by Hillary being a shrill, aggressive woman in 2011? I want to get you on the record before November.
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Oct 24 2018 12:52pm
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Hillary's milquetoast statements in 2011 and the Russian interference in 2016 wasn't an eye for an eye.

But I'm just asking if 2018 interference by the Russians can be justified or explained by Hillary being a shrill, aggressive woman in 2011? I want to get you on the record before November.


And Hillary bankrolling Russian dissident groups and the main opposition leader that was stirring up a populist uprising just after the US toppled the Libyan government and had Gaddafi sodomized to death in a populist uprising? Putin didn't see that as toothless.

I have the benefit from 2016 of enough facts being out in the open to know what happened and why. We haven't got a clue what Russia is up to in 2018 so far, and I can only speculate what they might be doing. Its a long road from speculation to explanation.

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