Youre blatantly grabbing the most irrational positions and claiming them as the mainstream left. The "theyre claiming wikileaks is Russia" is just the most recent, when its pretty obvious that the claim is closer to "Russia used wikileaks as an intermediate to release information and possibly communicated with the Trump campaign to let them know how the release will play out".

Russia used christopher steele as an intermediate to release information and possibly communicated with the hillary campaign to let them know how the release will play out

any comment?

If it came out as true in an investigation that would be bad too, but is less likely to be true than the above based on what Ive seen.

It's not proof in and of itself, but could be one of the building blocks of Mueller's case.

Russia tells campaign they're giving hacked emails to Wikileaks in exchange for sanctions relief or whatever, campaign/Stone/Corsi coordinate with Wikileaks to maximize damage to Hillary.

So I agree with you that the Wikileaks piece alone is probably not a crime.

Your position in this thread has been that Wikileaks contact is evidence of collusion. Am I mischaracterizing that?

If Wikileaks is essentially a Russian front, that makes sense.

If Wikileaks is an independent organization, pursuing separate goals, the simplest and most likely explanation is that Trump affiliates were pursuing information on Clinton, information Wikileaks was known to have.

It is not collusion to contact Wikileaks and inquire about damaging information, whether stolen or not.

It is collusion if the Trump campaign contacted Russian agents and asked them to procure damaging information, or otherwise commit various crimes. If Wikileaks was serving as an intermediary for this, it would be fair to characterize that as collusion as well, but no one has provided any evidence that that's the case. Wikileaks is known for accepting information, stolen or not, from a variety of sources. This fits their modus operandi.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Nov 30 2018 04:31pm

Wikileaks appears to be unaffiliated with any nation. Russia appears to be using that uaffiliated group as a proxy to conduct false flag propaganda campaigns.

Contacting wikileaks could be evidence of collusion if it was also done due to contact with a Russian agent, which I dont think is something far fetched.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 30 2018 05:14pm

Collusion doesn't exist. Its something made up by the Democrats to enrage their base.

Person A talking to Person B isn't a crime unless there is a criminal conspiracy.

You means being aware of hacks, communicating about it with A B C D 1 2 3 and not calling the FBI ?



I hope Pentagon is recording trump supporters IP & ID in their database for further usage.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 30 2018 06:16pm