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Nov 9 2017 03:37pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 9 2017 03:26pm)
my issue was with what you said originally and how you said it, not a revised opposition to someone theoretically and exclusively using something in a lazy manner.
If you are no longer calling it stupid, illogical and foolish to bring up 'would it have stopped it' then thats fine and we are not arguing over much.


What i've added to my position should have been in the original post of mine, o well...

Still I feel you glanced over or misunderstood a passage in that post that could have made most of those additions clear:

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but in general discussing gun laws and single events in terms of prevention is foolish, and usually is a way for people who instinctively reject all gun control to deflect form the core issue which is TOTAL gun deaths and TOTAL mass shootings.


"and" should likely be omitted. you seem to have made a few contentions, but don't fit the " instinctively reject all gun control to deflect form the core issue" category. only stupid people instinctively reject things without thinking, so my posts have only ever applied to stupid people. granted, i use phrases such as "stupid" in a cavalier manner. but on this subject i mean truly stupid people not just people i think are dumber than me.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 9 2017 03:38pm
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i guess when you don't have any actual arguments (or even opinions you dare to share) regarding a topic, you can always pivot to lecturing about the legitimacy and fairness of the other side's arguments - at least that way we don't have to address the issue...
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i guess when you don't have any actual arguments (or even opinions you dare to share) regarding a topic, you can always pivot to lecturing about the legitimacy and fairness of the other side's arguments - at least that way we don't have to address the issue...


are you talking to me?
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are you talking to me?


no, just making a general observation about people trying to delegitimise valid points by desperately arguing semantics - because that way they don't have to actually make a point and can always resort to claiming "i never said i'm in favour of / against..." and still criticise just one side.
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Nov 9 2017 05:50pm
Semantics arguing semantics?

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Quote (fender @ 9 Nov 2017 19:25)
it's funny how the "criminals will always find a way / don't obey laws" narrative is only true when it comes to guns. why are you in favour of thorough vetting (something i would have liked to see in germany as well before we took in millions of refugees btw) then? oh right, it's about decreasing the odds - unfortunately that logic eludes you when it comes to your precious guns...

well, guess when it comes to mass shootings it's just that americans are inherently more criminal than the rest of the civilised world... really nothing can be done sadly...


oh so you are suddenly a law guy now? but only when you are butthurt about gun owners of course
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Thoughts and Prayers





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wow its almost like another guy with a gun would be more effective
i wonder which side advocates that?
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