Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 24 2022 08:30am)

You cant believe something because its beneficial to you. Thats where the problems start. Believing is not something you can choose to do.

The reason for believing something, has to be evidential to make sense. Thats how our world works - except for Religion.
Thats what fascinates me about that question.
God is such a strong example of wishful thinking. People do not want to die, they also dont want to be responsable for anything at all. God gives so much comfort that they try to be convinced about it at all cost. Absolutely fascinating.

Quote (CheatEngine @ Mar 25 2022 06:05pm)

there's a degree of faith to both ideas:
•vast pools of gobbledeegook particles accumulating and being zapped by billions of years' worth of chaotic radiation/elements/whatnot led to proteins assembling into the random accident that was the first life after untold amounts of failures that didn't end up as life, and that life itself changed over time and may or may not have died out entirely until another batch of ooze got the right spark millions of years later
•bearded space man

the difference is that one of them at least tries to be evidence-based

Quote (CheatEngine @ Mar 25 2022 08:05pm)

there's a degree of faith to both ideas:
•vast pools of gobbledeegook particles accumulating and being zapped by billions of years' worth of chaotic radiation/elements/whatnot led to proteins assembling into the random accident that was the first life after untold amounts of failures that didn't end up as life, and that life itself changed over time and may or may not have died out entirely until another batch of ooze got the right spark millions of years later
•bearded space man

the difference is that one of them is evidence-based

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 25 2022 09:48pm)

ftfy

Quote (Santara @ Mar 25 2022 04:55pm)

Yes, and a steady state universe is no longer supported by the evidence.

Lol is all you have in the face of immense scientific data?

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 25 2022 05:44pm)

Because there is nothing to admit...you are just talking crap. You're bitching around that snake thing forever now, although it doesnt prove absolutely anything or has any foundation anywhere in reality, its just annoying.

Snakes are limbless for at least 100 Million years right now, so what should this bullshit ever do for your claim? And why the fuck should a snake have been able to "talk" to a human being (which it could never have met back then, because there were no human beings)? Why could the snake talk? And why wasnt the snake dumb as fuck, because thats what they are compared to us: incredibly stupid.
A snake - no matter if limbs or not - cant talk a human being into eating something. Snakes attack their mirror image because they think its another snake, they arent even remotely as intelligent as any mammal. Snakes have incredibly small brains, thats how it is.

"Bad bad snake shalt crawl on thy belly...blablabla"....dude, seriously, stop this bullshit.

If you dont have arguments, then why do we even have a discussion here? Just tell me, that you believe in god without even the slightest hint of truth behind it. Just tell me, you dont care about truth and we're good.

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 26 2022 12:02am)

yup, what they decided was fact was imaginary BS now they have to admit the construct had a beginning ......ouch

ya I am laughing about something

Quote (Santara @ Mar 25 2022 11:46pm)

And I'm one to believe God is behind the Big Bang. So no "ouch." But the Big Bang was billions of years ago.

Simple minds are easily amused.

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 26 2022 05:53am)

thanks for telling everyone what you "believe"
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millions and millions and millions of years ago where the imagination goes hog wild and magical morphing monkeys dance about in the mind.

it takes millions and millions and millions of years to form the sedimentary layers (minerals deposited by water) found around the world. even though its impossible to observe test or repeat the process the kooks gona call it science any way.

or is their another explanation? (i bring the science? while others just talk loud)
Experiments on Stratification Show Sedimentary Layers Are Not Age Layers 13:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwKGAbSEFD8&t=38s

shorter version
Sedimentary layers in the Laboratory 7:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE8NtWvNBKI

a world covered in water the revolution of the earth and the tidal pull of the moon would result in massive world wide currents eroding and laying down material. the experiment show current lays down multiple layers at the same time.

what do we find around the world? massive sedimentary layers everywhere. do you know what the full coverage of the tapeats sandstone layer is? wikipedia wont tell you

Quote (Santara @ Mar 26 2022 06:24am)

You intimated that the presence of a universal beginning was some kind of gotcha moment, I was setting you straight.

"where the imagination goes hog wild" is nothing but you engaging in the appeal to incredulity logical fallacy.

I'm proud of you for using YouTube. How far out of your comfort zone did that take you? That video showed setting down multiple vertical layers, but if you actually watch your own video, you will see that they use that as reasoning to understand HOW the layers are laid down, so that one doesn't just drill straight down and expect a perfect chronology.