lmfao small-time Lieu is butthurt that his ridiculous questions didn’t yield the results he wanted. just another taxpayer-leech of a politician

1. how exactly have the russian government (or close affiliates) "meddled"? that's a very vague word used rather often.

2. does this "meddling" alter votes that are already cast, or add illegal votes?

if "everyone" agrees, everyone should know

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Jul 28 2019 11:59am

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745351734/read-senate-intelligence-report-on-russian-interference-in-the-2016-election

haven't you paid attention to the news lately? that's the report of the REPUBLICAN lead senate intelligence committee.

No but I'm sure you have. It's the only way you know how to think.

why am i not surprised that the bs you spout is not informed by FACTS, what actually happened, and what the committee's findings are, but rather by what trump FEELS?

but hey, i guess that's the only way to be ok with a president who not only welcomed, but encouraged a hostile country to meddle with the elections, and then lied about it in order to cover it up.

"Everybody who disagrees with or challenges my opinion is a Russian bot *rides on sleigh*. I know this because I heard it from a CNN and Guardian news anchor." - Fender

You are downright depressing to even engage in discourse with.

This post was edited by CarsV on Jul 28 2019 01:45pm

you should be somewhat aware of the number of reports i do read.

i'll give a look to the findings of the summary of that report you listed though.

let's look together.
mmhm, yes.
ah, very interesting.

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745351734/read-senate-intelligence-report-on-russian-interference-in-the-2016-election


i will add a suggestion to also read sections 8, 9 and 10.
i.e.





according to this last line... you are doing the bidding of the Russian government.

you still did not answer 1 and/or 2 from this first post.

nice dodge about your emperor encouraging russia to meddle with your elections and then lying about it to cover it up.

npr article ≠ cnn news anchor
senate intelligence committee ≠ cnn news anchor
mueller report ≠ cnn news anchor

i almost never watch what the corporate hacks at cnn / msnbc produce, the odd cuomo segment on youtube from time to time, when he has interesting guests.

anyway, the fact that mcconnell outright BLOCKED (didn't even let his fellow republican puppets vote against them, or introduce his own legislation to secure the elections, all he did is reject the house bills) important measures to secure elections is indefensible, and the fact that you ppl make excuses for inviting and encouraging russia to meddle with your elections is pathetic. i can't even imagine how quickly your heads would explode if a democrat did this... shows that the whole 'patriotism' shtick is really just that, and as long as your 'team' profits, you couldn't care less...



the fact that you exclusively focused on the few parts that can be misrepresented as 'it wasn't a big deal' (completely ignoring that you don't have to change any votes if you make sure the 'wrong' ppl don't vote, if you have access to voter records and can target specific groups) - when the conclusion of the report (as well as mueller's evaluation, characterising russia's election interference as one of the most serious challenges to america's democracy he has faced in his long career, and that additional steps need to be taken) about the measures that would have to be taken could not be any clearer.
illustrates that you clearly want to push a certain narrative, and couldn't care less about the actual facts. too bad really...

This post was edited by fender on Jul 28 2019 02:41pm

your whole focus is from a generalization of vague words. i at the least, linked to you direct quotes from that report you didn't bother reading. (which you should have done, since you were the one trying to use it)

all you did was shout "meddling" as a way to promote a bill that was not needed.

from your first link..
https://www.apnews.com/e8a907c09e24427c968f8e569ff3ddbc

this is the money that was talked about in the report you hastily linked. (and i pointed out)
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745351734/read-senate-intelligence-report-on-russian-interference-in-the-2016-election

if you had actually read even the summaries of the report, you would have noticed this just after that very statement.


that is why the bill flopped. it was rushed to the floor before money was spent and analytic data was measured to appropriate future needs.
you are just trying to push something that already exists.

now...
will you answer any of my original 2 questions? or are you just going to keep shouting "meddling" while refusing to give an example of what that is?

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Jul 28 2019 03:09pm

holy shit, that's almost goo-shill style hackery of cherry picking, trivialising, and misrepresenting... the bill 'flopped' because mcconnell refused to bring it to a vote.

i thought you read the report? then you should be aware of the fact that the russians undertook massive efforts to influence and undermine the elections. and again, the fact that they probably did not directly switch any votes is a pathetic way to rationalise mcconnells decision to actively oppose securing elections. if a lion escapes because its cage is too weak, mauls several people, who miraculously all survive, you don't just say 'well, no one died, so i guess the cage is fine'.





if you had read the article a few lines further than the republican excuse that not all money of those $380 M from the beginning of last year you would have come across this passage:



but hey, who cares, right? as long as it favours republicans, just meddle away - a true patriot...