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Dec 30 2018 05:09pm
Quote (IchBinDaddy @ Dec 28 2018 02:47pm)


There are many things in this universe that science cannot and never will be able to explain.

One good example: dogs being able to know when someone died. My mother experienced this when she was 12 years old and her father died (prostrate cancer). She and her family were at home while he was in the hospice. Their family dog was with them. When he breathed his last breath, the dog immediately began to howl, using a certain sound of howling that Mom never heard him make before, and never heard him make ever again since. It was a very unique sound. Grandma called the hospice and they said he had just passed away. HOW THE HECK DID THE DOG KNOW? Science will never be able to explain that. This is evidence enough for me that there's things in this world that we can't see. There is definitely a Creator and we can see that there is sin all around us. I'm not saying that this means we should follow religion or do whatever the Bible tells us to do. I'm just saying that there IS a Creator out there. That's all. This universe didn't start off with a "Big Bang", a completely ridiculous theory created by man. You don't like religion because it was created by man? That's fine - I don't either. But remember, the Big Bang theory was created by man, too.
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Dec 30 2018 05:14pm
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There are many things in this universe that science cannot and never will be able to explain.

One good example: dogs being able to know when someone died. My mother experienced this when she was 12 years old and her father died (prostrate cancer). She and her family were at home while he was in the hospice. Their family dog was with them. When he breathed his last breath, the dog immediately began to howl, using a certain sound of howling that Mom never heard him make before, and never heard him make ever again since. It was a very unique sound. Grandma called the hospice and they said he had just passed away. HOW THE HECK DID THE DOG KNOW? Science will never be able to explain that. This is evidence enough for me that there's things in this world that we can't see. There is definitely a Creator and we can see that there is sin all around us. I'm not saying that this means we should follow religion or do whatever the Bible tells us to do. I'm just saying that there IS a Creator out there. That's all. This universe didn't start off with a "Big Bang", a completely ridiculous theory created by man. You don't like religion because it was created by man? That's fine - I don't either. But remember, the Big Bang theory was created by man, too.


"I cant explain it, therefore God"

Pretty terrible way of thinking
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Dec 30 2018 06:06pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 30 2018 07:14pm)
"I cant explain it, therefore God"

Pretty terrible way of thinking



“Aliens? Definitely. Angels? Other beings in different dimensions from ours? Total horseshit.”

Pretty terrible way of thinking
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Dec 30 2018 06:08pm
Quote (pwb3 @ Dec 30 2018 06:06pm)
“Aliens? Definitely. Angels? Other beings in different dimensions from ours? Total horseshit.”

Pretty terrible way of thinking


When did I ever say something was caused by aliens?

If youre going to summarize the other persons position at least do it accurately.
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Dec 30 2018 07:23pm
Scientific Deism is completely consistent with any christian belief system
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When did I ever say something was caused by aliens?

If youre going to summarize the other persons position at least do it accurately.


Quote (pwb3 @ rather long post)
There are many things in this universe that science cannot and never will be able to explain.

One good example: dogs being able to know when someone died. My mother experienced this when she was 12 years old and her father died (prostrate cancer). She and her family were at home while he was in the hospice. Their family dog was with them. When he breathed his last breath, the dog immediately began to howl, using a certain sound of howling that Mom never heard him make before, and never heard him make ever again since. It was a very unique sound. Grandma called the hospice and they said he had just passed away. HOW THE HECK DID THE DOG KNOW? Science will never be able to explain that. This is evidence enough for me that there's things in this world that we can't see. There is definitely a Creator and we can see that there is sin all around us. I'm not saying that this means we should follow religion or do whatever the Bible tells us to do. I'm just saying that there IS a Creator out there. That's all. This universe didn't start off with a "Big Bang", a completely ridiculous theory created by man. You don't like religion because it was created by man? That's fine - I don't either. But remember, the Big Bang theory was created by man, too.

Quote (Thor123422 @ blatantly summarized my post into one line)
"I cant explain it, therefore God"

Pretty terrible way of thinking


:rolleyes:

If youre going to summarize the other persons position at least do it accurately.
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Dec 30 2018 11:31pm
Quote (pwb3 @ Dec 30 2018 10:54pm)
:rolleyes:

If youre going to summarize the other persons position at least do it accurately.


Your whole post hinges on "i don't know how the dog knew, therefore God"
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Dec 31 2018 02:45am
Quote (pwb3 @ Dec 31 2018 12:09am)
There are many things in this universe that science cannot and never will be able to explain.

One good example: dogs being able to know when someone died. My mother experienced this when she was 12 years old and her father died (prostrate cancer). She and her family were at home while he was in the hospice. Their family dog was with them. When he breathed his last breath, the dog immediately began to howl, using a certain sound of howling that Mom never heard him make before, and never heard him make ever again since. It was a very unique sound. Grandma called the hospice and they said he had just passed away. HOW THE HECK DID THE DOG KNOW? Science will never be able to explain that. This is evidence enough for me that there's things in this world that we can't see. There is definitely a Creator and we can see that there is sin all around us. I'm not saying that this means we should follow religion or do whatever the Bible tells us to do. I'm just saying that there IS a Creator out there. That's all. This universe didn't start off with a "Big Bang", a completely ridiculous theory created by man. You don't like religion because it was created by man? That's fine - I don't either. But remember, the Big Bang theory was created by man, too.



Some pretty bold and arrogant statements you’re making there. Who says science cannot and never will explain everything? You? Are you a scientist yourself?

The big bang is the best explanation we have on the origin of this universe, and is based on observable evidence. It is not intended, as most religious folk believe, to be an end-all solution to the origin of the universe. Unlike your views (there IS a god, and nothing you can say will convince me otherwise), science is always open and accepting of criticism and contradiction.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 30 Dec 2018 20:23)
Scientific Deism is completely consistent with any christian belief system



Wrong.
Absolutely wrong.
It is not “completely consistent” at all.
It’s what pushed me to deism from being a Christian.
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