Sad that this election will really turn into which candidate do we hate less. We joke that it's always the situation, but never to this magnitude. You have a huge portion of moderates that despise both of these candidates every time their mouths are moving. I cannot wait for the debates lol

I think that what gets lost in the discussion about Bernie Sanders is that he is not an idealogue. He advocates for very far left ideas like subsidized tuition for state schools, but he's not going to turn down legislation that simply reduces the interest rate on federal student loans.

So while he does advocate for very progressive policy that isn't likely to reach the floor of Congress, he's still going to take what he can get and his administration will still help move America in a progressive direction. That's proven by his voting record.

His administration may veto more bills than a HRC administration but that's mainly because he differs on financial regulation issues and surveillance issues, two things establishment Democrats and Republicans have litttle problem agreeing with.

Bernie Sanders isnt far left

As far as American politics go, he is. For a major presidential candidate.

In America, yeah. But in America close to half the country support a party that thinks killing the families of terrorists is a great idea

That isn't as bad an idea as you may think. One of the reasons the west is losing the war on terror is they play by a rulebook that the enemy doesn't adhere to.

Terrorists have no problems killing the families on innocent people. Since we're so soft, every attack they commit is a win-win situation. If they do it and get away, then their people view them as heroes. If they do it and get captured/killed, they believe they achieve martyrdom and take solace in knowing their families won't be hurt and they'll go to "heaven".

Unfortunately, I think the only way to stop terrorism is to do some very nasty things to those involved, knowing damn well that if the roles were reversed, the enemy would have no problem doing the same (or worse) to you. The families of terrorists aren't very likely to be totally innocent either. They most likely know what's being planned and that people are going to die, but they don't report it or condemn it. They sit and cheer the terrorists along.

Israel has had a HUGE problem with terrorism, considering they're surrounded by nations that inherent hate Jews. For centuries they've had to deal with terrorism, and have become pretty good at it. They built a huge wall, don't allow Muslim migrants, and punish terrorists extremely severely. There was a recent article mentioning how Israelis will take a captured terrorist and put pig meat all over his body to make sure he dies disgraced and doesn't reach the heaven he believes in. They'll also go after the family in a very strong manner. It's a terrible thing to do, but it works. You can't win a war by being politically correct and limiting yourself to a set of rules the enemy surely won't adhere to.

The president won't even name the enemy. How can you defeat an enemy you don't name? If he looks in the mirror and says 'radical islamic terrorists' 3 times, ISIS go down in a blaze of glory

Lol but seriously, what kind of pathetic coward do you have to be to think that your safety is worth murdering children?

you seem to be misinformed badly read EA7 comment again it's perfect outline of how to counter punch ISIS

I could not care less if it is a workable strategy, its a low life cowards way and anyone who thinks attacking your enemies families is a valid way to wage war disgusts me.
It is also not a great strategy, because wars are won in the minds of the general populace, this kind of behavior is why america lost vietnam, american troops were perceived as baby killers and the population turned on them.


This post was edited by Plaguefear on May 11 2016 08:11pm