learn reading: http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/04/18/359057/un-urges-israel-to-lift-gaza-blockade/

So who provide them power? water? fuel? food?
Eygpt ? haha.

We have problems with Mexico all the time kidnapping, murdering, etc. U.S. citizens all the time. You know what we do? Work with Mexican authorities in apprehending suspects. We do not start bulldozing Mexican homes or bomb them into submission.

Furthermore, you're delusional if you don't think Israel benefited from both the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. Israel helped the
U.S. train the Afghans to fight the soviets, for crying out loud. You want to point the finger at us as though it excuses what goes on.

There are people in the U.S., myself included, who are/were against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. There were Americans against our invasion of Vietnam.

Our government does shitty things. We know that. We call them out on it. Why do you think the republican party lost the 2008 elections? We were not going to tolerate another war hawk president. Not only have we ended the war in Iraq, we will soon withdraw all of our troops out of Afghanistan.

Has Israel scaled anything back? Has it withdrawn to its own borders? Has it focused solely on defending itself from terrorism and stopped shaking down the Gaza strip? What have the Israelis done to hold its leaders responsible? Are the zionists still having their way?

More importantly, are you enjoying that sweet, sweet American cash we sent you? All $3 billion from last year?

It sucks you have to deal with a 9/11 every day. It sucks there can't be a Jewish homeland that's safe to protect Jews from persecution. It sucks you're facing an enemy that won't compromise. But what sucks more than al of that is a first world, democratic nation like Israel can't fucking treat its minority population decently.

First of why should Israel withdraw her troops? second we did it in 2005 on Gaza strip.
Incase you didnt know the C.I.A trained Al Qayida to fight against the soviets , the C.I.A provide them weapons like the Sting rocket to fight the soviets.
The US can talk with the mexicans authorities , Israel cant talk with the Palestine authorities because they controled by Hamas ,simple as that.
Israel benefited by those invasions ? 90% of the racist in the world think Israel made the US invade those countries.
Vietnam was in the Cold war, the Soviets and the US were supporting war zones around the world just to say "Im stronger then you" .
All the money the US send to Israel prevent Israel to take actions against Palestine if you didnt know , the US prevent Israeli to take militry actions that would be done like any other country that got attack by terrorists ,
Tell me yet again , if your city would get hit by rockets , none stop , wont you want your govrement to response ? to show you that she can protect you and your family ?
Why Eygpt , Jordan , Syria , Iraq , Libya , Iran wont take those Palestine people to their own country and support them?
I will answer you that :
Its eaiser to the arab countries to supply weapons and ammo to Hamas and any other person/country that willing to attack Israel , to kill "Jews" .
Even when Israel sign peace agreement with Eygpt , Israel offered Gaza strip back to Eygpt..know what was the answer ? "Hell no" , you know why ? because those Palestine people did the same to the Eygpt govrement and citizens just like they do to Israel.
Why Syria wont accept them? Syria wont accept them because Syria dont see the Palestine citizens equal to them
Jordan wont take them because they know they are barbarians that only looking for blood.
Lybia wont take them because they dont want to face what Israel is facing since 1948
Iraq wont take them because they perfer to see them kill Jews
Iran wont take them because they perfer to see them kill Jews

Why the United States wont give all her lands to the original countries that they counquered? why wont you give Mexio the lands you counqered them in the Mexio - US war ?
How the United States got Alaska ? they bought the lands from the Soviets , why wont United States give Alaska back to Russia then?
Why wont China give Taiwan her freedom ?
Why I dont see not even 1 topic against China ? Why cant I see 1 topic against the United States not giving back the lands she conquered in wars?
How do you except Israel do give back the lands SHE counquered in wars against the Arabs ?


and it sucks that since Im born I live with this shit , sucks I lost 5 friends in terrorist attacks , sucks that I got stabbed by 60 years Palestine old lady because I wanted to give her a hand to cross the road.
sucks that my friend car got destroyed by an rocket back in 2006 , sucks that yesterday 2 arabs tried to kidnap a innocent girl in my city.
Sucks to be a Jew in a world of Racists , sucks that the world cant understand the Israel only defending herself.
In every war in history , inncoent citizens died in order to achive peace.
You can accept it or not but its a fact.

This post was edited by Yakir on Jul 10 2014 05:40am

I hear ya. I hate when a more established nation provides millions of dollars in aid to an often violent nation over the course of many years.

Yeah Israel just bomb the states since 1948 right?

I just realized what is the problem... you compare a Country such as Mexico to a terror organization dedicated to the annihilation of the state of Israel like Hamas.
So for your point "Has Israel scaled anything back?" Yes it did when an Arab Leaders reached their hands for Peace we achieved Peace: Egypt received Sinai back an area bigger then the state of Israel itself and with Oil. We made peace with Jordan.
And then we left Gaza.............. and for 13 years now we only hear rockets in the skies.
This is unacceptable and I know you would not accept it on your own house.

about the borders:
The WEST BANK WAS NEVER A PALESTINIAN AREA IT WAS FULL OF JEWS WHO WERE MURDERS on the beginning of the last century it was controlled by the ottoman empire and then was conquer by Jordan who lost it to Israel on the 6 days war on 1967.
a land that belongs to no one (by international law) is now belong to Israel. furthermore the Palestinians as you call them are Egyptions, Beduim, Saudies and Jordanian people this is all a fiction there is no people of Palestine and never was. where were they under Jordan's control? where were they under Egypt's control (in Gaza)?
It stated (The Palestinians) when the Israelis conquered these lands as a mean to destroy Israel.

Zionism was a group of people who had vision to build a state for the Jewish state.
Today in Israel a Zionist means "someone who loves its country" you for some reason use it as a word that describe other things.


This is not our population... you mix everything up again.
I will explain it in a way you might understand:
Does a human being of a Mexican decent who Live in the united state have the same status as a human being of a Mexican decent leaving in Mexico? 0
ofc not, if Mexico would attack you, you would strike back and no one will say "It's your citizens"
well GAZA isn't and never was part of Israel: They do not pay taxes, they do not have Israeli Police, they Do not join the Army, they are not Israelis.
The Arab population INSIDE of Israel IS: Paying Taxes, some of them join the Army, they use our police and for your own knowledge Arabic is an official language in Israel and that's why our signs have both Arabic, English and Hebrew on them.
The Arabs in Israel lives like Kings so please if you do not know what you are talking about go read before you spread bullshit.

The 3 Billion $ you give us comes in weapons not in $ and it is only 2% of our annual income... you really think this is what will break Israel? 3 Billion...? you must be joking.
We Survived 1948 without you, 67 without and on 73 it took Nixon 14 days to decide whether to help us or not... and by the time he did we were almost out of ammo but we did manage to control the situation.
you please spare me with this bullshit...

P.S.
Like I mentioned before if you have any idea that you think will solve this situation please do and if you don't then you just argue for the sake of arguing which is a waste of our time.
Have a nice day.



Israel was getting help from the Soviets back then.
we reached the American's when we understood the Russian was selling weapons to both sides and tried to escalate the situation so both sides will have to buy weapons.


This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 10 2014 06:19am

Still I dont think Israel ever attack the States / Soviet , so you got my point.

This post was edited by Yakir on Jul 10 2014 06:20am

totally wrong

The State of Palestine is a sovereign state in the Levant that is recognized by the United Nations.

source wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine





This post was edited by 2sexy4u on Jul 10 2014 07:34am

The PLO was considered by the United States and Israel to be a terrorist organization until the Madrid Conference in 1991. In 1993, the PLO recognized Israel's right to exist in peace, accepted UN Security Council resolutions 242 and 338, and rejected "violence and terrorism"; in response, Israel officially recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Liberation_Organization

Since Yassar Arafat died this is not relevent anymore.