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Nov 27 2012 12:19pm
Quote (Azrad @ 27 Nov 2012 17:59)
6 minutes, no substance, i guess that's run of the mill for youtube


Why don't you just post "free bump" if you have nothing to say ?
Thanks anyway.
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Nov 27 2012 12:34pm
Religion is only 1 thing really ....Human history we have to go by writen by a few old and wise people for their times....Some have truths easy to follow some have more meaning behind each word....Why say anyone religion is wrong? Because most of them teach it is that way or the highway to hell..

Read your history.....Right or wrong it is what we have from the past...
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Animal mind: People who are trying to get clear of the mind usually learn how to turn off the conscious level of the mind in a short period of time, for short periods of time, and then they go no farther. This is because they think they made it and are free. Life is much more fulfilling without the conscious mind blocking it.

When the conscious mind closes down, you are at the awareness level of all lower animals. You become as aware as dogs, cats, and all other lower animals. It is so fulfilling that people stop there. This is the last and strongest illusion. This does not mean that you will see as well as an eagle or hear as well as a dog. All animals have some specialized senses that are stronger than other animals to help them survive and evolve. Our specialized sense that was superior to all other animals was and is our minds. It gave us a huge advantage over other animals and put us where we are at the top of the food chain, but it is not enough. The closest are the farthest away.

It is all about being more aware of your environment. Our minds made us aware on a completely new level of perception. It not only gave us the power to conquer the animal world, it gives us the power to evolve ourselves and to manipulate our environment like no other animal, but we are all still just smart animals.

What mankind has been doing and could be doing in the future is unprecedented in the animal realm, and people take it for granted. It is the most wonderful and miraculous thing possible. You just have to know it and use it to its full potential. When we learn the ultimate truth, the conscious and subconscious part of our minds start to shut themselves down and go into the background. It feels so good and is so fulfilling that people are not aware that there is anything else between them and life/God. There is; it is the instinctual part of our minds, the deepest part of our minds. It does not shut itself down with the other parts.

The instinctual mind is very powerful and is harder to see than the conscious mind. You see your conscious mind by just trying to get in touch with your life senses. When they are all clear and receiving all of the life coming to you, you can know that the conscious mind is not in your life. You cannot do that with the instinctual part of your mind. The instinctual part of your mind does not block your other senses very much, not enough to know it that way. Using that method to see it does not work. That is what makes it the most dangerous part of your mind. It is difficult and scary to get past. The instinctual part of your mind manifests itself as fear, carnal love, the sex drive, greed, hate, as well as racism and all other animal aggressive and violent behavior.

Hitler and Manson are examples of people that got their charisma and presence from living without the conscious mind much of the time. It gave them their power, but without the conscious mind to keep the instinctual mind in check, you have a very charismatic super-predator. Hitler was more organized, Manson was more spontaneous, but they were on the same level. They got past fear, but not aggression. They were charismatic, fearless and aggressive, and we all know the result of that state of mind.

Manson and Hitler did not know they were living without the conscious mind; they did not turn it off deliberately. They were not aware that they had no conscience. They literally lost their minds; they did not take control of them as a spiritual being does. Only those that know the ultimate truth can turn off their mind.

To go most of the way and then stop before you get past the instinctual mind can be a disaster. You will just be turning the beast loose at full power. You have to get past the fulfillment and fear of going farther. If you stop, you will just be a very dangerous animal. This is why it is important to keep opening up until you connect with God/life. You will know when it happens.

You do not want to spend too much time enjoying the beast in its pure form, because it is much too dangerous. If you are acting aggressive, and it is not in direct self-defense, you are not past it.


Jesus said, “The seeker should not stop until he finds. When he does find, he will be disturbed. After having been disturbed, he will be astonished. Then he will reign over everything.”

from pages 132-133 of "The Present (with religion)" at www.truthcontest.com
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Nov 27 2012 04:35pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ 27 Nov 2012 17:34)
‎Jesus said


No he didn't.
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Nov 27 2012 05:06pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Nov 27 2012 04:35pm)
No he didn't.


The Gospel of Thomas.
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Nov 27 2012 05:13pm
Quote (Cannabist @ 28 Nov 2012 00:06)
The Gospel of Thomas.


Don't bother, that guy is 2000 years old and recorded all sayings of Jesus, if he said he didn't said that it must be true.
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Nov 27 2012 05:19pm
Quote (Cannabist @ Nov 27 2012 07:06pm)
The Gospel of Thomas.

Historical fiction.
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Nov 27 2012 05:21pm
Quote (Cannabist @ 27 Nov 2012 18:06)
The Gospel of Thomas.


Fair enough, actually. My mistake. I'm used to Eli quoting some page with absolutely no source that completely warps and changes Jesus' message. The Gospel of Thomas is legit enough for me, though. Probably not for 99% of churches, mind, but I'd say it's at least as worthy as the other gospels as far as historical documentation is concerned.

My mistake, and I'll try to look more closely at where the quotes come from instead of assuming they're all from the same bullshit source.
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Nov 27 2012 05:22pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Nov 27 2012 07:21pm)
Fair enough, actually.  My mistake.  I'm used to Eli quoting some page with absolutely no source that completely warps and changes Jesus' message.  The Gospel of Thomas is legit enough for me, though.  Probably not for 99% of churches, mind, but I'd say it's at least as worthy as the other gospels as far as historical documentation is concerned.

My mistake, and I'll try to look more closely at where the quotes come from instead of assuming they're all from the same bullshit source.

In your defense, Eti did cite it as coming from the Truth Contest
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Nov 27 2012 05:22pm
Kudos.
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