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May 24 2011 01:12pm
Quote (shay11 @ May 24 2011 03:09pm)
What exactly is the point of what you are saying?


...the point should have been obvious in my first post about this tangent . Lousy and cowardly parenting has produced an entire generation that actually believes they are special and unique .
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Quote (Nihlathak @ May 24 2011 02:11pm)
If the Earth exists, then the Earth exists.

That's a universal and absolute truth.


Does the earth exist to a blind person?

Does the things a guy with schizophrenia see exist?
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Quote (Nihlathak @ May 24 2011 03:11pm)
If the Earth exists, then the Earth exists.

That's a universal and absolute truth.


...yet you would be just as quick to argue that any existence is subjective .

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Quote (DubstepPrincess @ May 24 2011 02:13pm)
Does the earth exist to a blind person?

Does the things a guy with schizophrenia see exist?



If it does, then it does. There's no getting around that statement. It will always be true no matter what irrelevant questions you're asking.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 24 2011 02:13pm)
...yet  you would be just as quick to argue that any existence is subjective .



You clearly you don't grasp the point of that statement. IF it exists, THEN it exists.

The subjectivity of existence is irrelevant.

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May 24 2011 01:15pm
Quote (DubstepPrincess @ May 24 2011 02:10pm)
For me there does...
Nothing means anything if everyone is just going to die and decompose on a rock.


The fact that everyone is going to die makes life infinitely more valuable.

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Quote (DubstepPrincess @ May 24 2011 01:13pm)
Does the earth exist to a blind person?

Does the things a guy with schizophrenia see exist?


For those around the person? No, but for the person? Yes.
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Quote (Aisu_aS @ May 24 2011 02:16pm)
For those around the person? No, but for the person? Yes.


Prove to me that your perception is the correct perception over the schizophrenic.

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If it does, then it does. There's no getting around that statement. It will always be true no matter what irrelevant questions you're asking.



If it does then it does obviously. Humans can never know this though.
Also "true" is a human logic term that may have no significant value in the grand scheme.
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 24 2011 02:08pm)
...dismay over earthly pleasures is a wonderful motivator for spiritual reflection and reawakening .


Contemptus mundi is a good motivator for spiritual reflection. Part of being a good Christian is recognizing that life is a gift from God though. Part of that recognition is to enjoy the gift. Saying that this life isn't great to enjoy doesn't seem quite right to me.
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Quote (DubstepPrincess @ May 24 2011 02:17pm)
If it does then it does obviously. Humans can never know this though.
Also "true" is a human logic term that may have no significant value in the grand scheme.


@bolded - Exactly, and saying that statement itself is true is a universal truth.

And I lol'd at the underlined statement, because that's a maxim that actually requires more assumptions than anything else.

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