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Oct 2 2023 01:02pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 2 2023 01:55pm)
predatory lending from the banks?

oh young one you have much to learn

the entire system of laws is set around protecting banks bro. lol. The law puts the owness on the businesses to operate in good faith and the banks are to trust that good faith, but if it is found that things were not done in good faith. then... well 45ths situation happens or sam friedmans situatuon happens. you cant fuck with these people the laws are literally there designed to protect the banks lmfao bro learn how the world works.

THIS is the beauty of the western world. businesses are freee to operate IN GOOD FAITH. that is the true freedom of the western world that so many people do not understand because they take it for granted. it is so easy to take advantage of the system, because you are a free person, you can take advantage, but those actions have fucking consquences and get fuckt 45th go to jail lose everythin gforever gg no re x0X

the most critical part of our ability to be free in the western way of thinking is the ability for every man and woman to be trusted as a citizen to operate in good faith. that is the MOST CRITICAL part of our freedom. Do not get mad when someone is shown to NOT operate in good faith and lady justice and the law punish them. Do not try to change the system, because getting rid of the ability to operate in good faith is essentially fascism



Cool bro remember this next time you write an essay about student loans.
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Oct 2 2023 01:08pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ 2 Oct 2023 15:02)
Cool bro remember this next time you write an essay about student loans.


showing your ignorance even more here as student loans are a completely different subject with completely different pros and cons and completely different impacts on completely different people.

Just don't get your hopes up that the banks are the ones doing the 'predatory' actions here lmfao
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Oct 2 2023 01:12pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 2 2023 02:08pm)
showing your ignorance even more here as student loans are a completely different subject with completely different pros and cons and completely different impacts on completely different people.

Just don't get your hopes up that the banks are the ones doing the 'predatory' actions here lmfao



Seems like the same scenario to me. The banks give a much larger loan than the evidence shows the recipient can repay based on his/her assets.


Yeah, that’s literally you guys’ argument against predatory lending.


I mean any legitimate lender will do minor investigating, correct? Is it normal for one to simply claim they make $300,000 per year and obtain a mortgage for half a million? Anything besides that seems intentional and predatory to me.
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Oct 2 2023 01:17pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ 2 Oct 2023 15:12)
Seems like the same scenario to me. The banks give a much larger loan than the evidence shows the recipient can repay based on his/her assets.


Yeah, that’s literally you guys’ argument against predatory lending.


I mean any legitimate lender will do minor investigating, correct? Is it normal for one to simply claim they make $300,000 per year and obtain a mortgage for half a million? Anything besides that seems intentional and predatory to me.


you dont get it

you just dont get it

you are now getting caught up with Mar a lago. you seem to think this is about taking loans against mar a lago.

this is way more than he just took some loans bro. First of all mar a lago I believe isnt even part of the case it talks about his other properties. So you seeing eric trump saying mar a lago is worth billions of dollars (lmfao btw) and us talking about mar a lago being worth 27 million according to the trump org on paper has fucking nothing to do with the over a dozen other properties and situations that he is being convicted on.

you need to read a newspaper and learn the actual scope of what is happening as part of this. I recommend starting with the 30 minutes video at the beginning. you need to actually take time to understand what is going on.

just becuase YOU think 'well its predatory lending' that doesnt mean shit we dont have to talk about what you think that is low level conversation we can talk about actual facts of the case and the facts are he broke the fucking law over and over and over and over so sit down and put your reading glasses on and get to work understanding the scope of what is actually happening right now.
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Oct 2 2023 01:21pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ Oct 2 2023 02:12pm)
Seems like the same scenario to me. The banks give a much larger loan than the evidence shows the recipient can repay based on his/her assets.

Yeah, that’s literally you guys’ argument against predatory lending.

I mean any legitimate lender will do minor investigating, correct? Is it normal for one to simply claim they make $300,000 per year and obtain a mortgage for half a million? Anything besides that seems intentional and predatory to me.


That isn't what predatory lending is.

There are no abusive, unfair, or deceptive loan terms in what you described. In Trump's case he had adequate repayment time, at a justifiable interest rate, in a fully transparent contract, that Trump could get out of through traditional bankruptcy proceedings if he needed to.
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Oct 2 2023 01:21pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 2 2023 01:17pm)
you dont get it

you just dont get it

you are now getting caught up with Mar a lago. you seem to think this is about taking loans against mar a lago.

this is way more than he just took some loans bro. First of all mar a lago I believe isnt even part of the case it talks about his other properties. So you seeing eric trump saying mar a lago is worth billions of dollars (lmfao btw) and us talking about mar a lago being worth 27 million according to the trump org on paper has fucking nothing to do with the over a dozen other properties and situations that he is being convicted on.

you need to read a newspaper and learn the actual scope of what is happening as part of this. I recommend starting with the 30 minutes video at the beginning. you need to actually take time to understand what is going on.

just becuase YOU think 'well its predatory lending' that doesnt mean shit we dont have to talk about what you think that is low level conversation we can talk about actual facts of the case and the facts are he broke the fucking law over and over and over and over so sit down and put your reading glasses on and get to work understanding the scope of what is actually happening right now.


Do you know what an appraiser is? You will one day. When you need to take a loan on a property.
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Oct 2 2023 01:22pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 2 Oct 2023 15:21)
That isn't what predatory lending is.

There are no abusive, unfair, or deceptive loan terms in what you described. In Trump's case he had adequate repayment time, at a justifiable interest rate, in a fully transparent contract, that Trump could get out of through traditional bankruptcy proceedings if he needed to.


which Trump declared bankruptcy 6 times total by 1992

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/
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Oct 2 2023 01:23pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 2 2023 02:17pm)
you dont get it

you just dont get it

you are now getting caught up with Mar a lago. you seem to think this is about taking loans against mar a lago.

this is way more than he just took some loans bro. First of all mar a lago I believe isnt even part of the case it talks about his other properties. So you seeing eric trump saying mar a lago is worth billions of dollars (lmfao btw) and us talking about mar a lago being worth 27 million according to the trump org on paper has fucking nothing to do with the over a dozen other properties and situations that he is being convicted on.

you need to read a newspaper and learn the actual scope of what is happening as part of this. I recommend starting with the 30 minutes video at the beginning. you need to actually take time to understand what is going on.

just becuase YOU think 'well its predatory lending' that doesnt mean shit we dont have to talk about what you think that is low level conversation we can talk about actual facts of the case and the facts are he broke the fucking law over and over and over and over so sit down and put your reading glasses on and get to work understanding the scope of what is actually happening right now.



I don’t think it is predatory lending. I just think you are a fucking joke.

You taking me seriously while I am obviously just subtly calling you an idiot is just more proof of your idiocy. Thinking I would spend thirty minutes watching some video about something something Donald trump something something oooga booga is just laughable.

This post was edited by YeeHaw on Oct 2 2023 01:25pm
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Oct 2 2023 01:25pm
Quote (Landmine @ 2 Oct 2023 15:21)
Do you know what an appraiser is? You will one day. When you need to take a loan on a property.


bro you need to look at the facts of the case bro I know what an appraiser is that isn't the question at all bro what are you on about?????


somewhere along the line Trump lied to the banks and his accounting firm about the value of the properties we dont have to get into the semantics of how an appraisal works you dumbass if we want to do that then we need to look at what happened in the actual case not just what you think could happen maybe sometime I think somehow maybe bro like come on dude this is so boring you are so fucking boring man

according to the facts of the case in several situations 45th hired his own appraisers that lied to the banks, okay, go fucking read dude its all public fucking knowledge go read it.
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Oct 2 2023 01:25pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ 2 Oct 2023 15:23)
I don’t think it is predatory lending. I just think you are a fucking joke.

You taking me seriously while I am obviously just subtly calling you an idiot is just more proof of your idiocy.


so your defense now is literally 'im trolling, haha'

holy shit thanks for finally admitting it I can legit ignore you forever now thanks bro
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