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Oct 18 2023 11:45am
A history lesson for you plebs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba





This post was edited by Crunkt on Oct 18 2023 11:45am
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Oct 18 2023 11:52am
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Israel absorbed 900,000 jews from the Muslim world with the creation of the country. The muslim world signed an agreement saying no country would take a single arab and forced them to remain in Israel.

well before Hamas, Hezbolah, or even Black September.

This conflict could have been over in the 1960s with the resettlement of all non-jewish arabs by their neighbors to replace the jewish population that left (with 200k to spare i might add), but the nations of Islam chose to create martyrs instead.
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Oct 18 2023 12:22pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Oct 2023 13:52)
Israel absorbed 900,000 jews from the Muslim world with the creation of the country. The muslim world signed an agreement saying no country would take a single arab and forced them to remain in Israel.

well before Hamas, Hezbolah, or even Black September.

This conflict could have been over in the 1960s with the resettlement of all non-jewish arabs by their neighbors to replace the jewish population that left (with 200k to spare i might add), but the nations of Islam chose to create martyrs instead.


Palestine in 1948 was much larger

At first the Israeli state was small but they have slowly taken over more and more since then, now there is a tiny strip of city left and the israelites want to burn them all alive rather than let them leave
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Oct 18 2023 12:27pm
Quote (Crunkt @ 18 Oct 2023 20:22)
Palestine in 1948 was much larger

At first the Israeli state was small but they have slowly taken over more and more since then, now there is a tiny strip of city left and the israelites want to burn them all alive rather than let them leave


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

Guess the fuckers.
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Oct 18 2023 12:29pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 18 2023 01:22pm)
Palestine in 1948 was much larger

At first the Israeli state was small but they have slowly taken over more and more since then, now there is a tiny strip of city left and the israelites want to burn them all alive rather than let them leave


gaza is a tiny strip of land that has 2.3m people. israel absorbed 900k jews from the middle east and northern africa, as well as all the jews that came from Europe and elsewhere. of course the lines grew as the population grew.

but that doesnt really address my point of why the people of gaza are in gaza, it's not because Israel is keeping them there, its because no one else will take them. not the west, not israel, and not the muslim world. the doors arent shut for them to leave, they have no where to go. the doors are shut so rockets and guns dont come in.

fyi im not for the settlement practice of israel or expansion of borders, and i recognize any peace agreement is contingent on both Israel returning land AND working out a way to remove the blockade. but we cant present the history of the 700k arabs "trapped there" without the context of 900k who migrated there. Israel took on a great burden of jews from all over the globe, the favor was not returned.
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Oct 18 2023 12:38pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 18 2023 11:22am)
Palestine in 1948 was much larger

At first the Israeli state was small but they have slowly taken over more and more since then, now there is a tiny strip of city left and the israelites want to burn them all alive rather than let them leave


"Palestine" never existed in 1948, unless you're referring to the British government of that region which was called Mandatory Palestine. Before that, the land belonged to the entity which is now the rump state of Turkey (Ottomans). It never belonged to the Arabs who sought to conquer the land. The Arabs cling to a false narrative that we British made a pact to give them the land in return for help vs. the Turks, but we never did and they're still mad about it. You need to go back and study your history of the region.

Losing world wars has consequences. The Ottoman Empire lost & their territory was broken up, same as the German Empire. Then after that, the "Palestinian" Arabs fucked around and allied themselves with Adolf Hitler, and of course lost, so we gave the land rightfully to the Jewish people.

So yeah, Israel is fed up with the anti-semitism and wish to eradicate the Jewish people. The neighbouring states do not want to take the terrorists in because guess what, they're terrorists who have already terrorized their countries in the recent past (Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon). Violent actions have consequences and the "Palestinian" people have proven to the world, and their Arab "brothers", that they're nothing but rabid animals who are unable to integrate into civil society. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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Oct 18 2023 12:40pm
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Yup all this land which rightfully belongs to Israel will be reclaimed in the near future

If Jordan and Lebanon continue to undermine Israel they'll have big chunks taken out of them quite soon
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Oct 18 2023 12:40pm
Quote (Crunkt @ 18 Oct 2023 21:22)
Palestine in 1948 was much larger

At first the Israeli state was small but they have slowly taken over more and more since then, now there is a tiny strip of city left and the israelites want to burn them all alive rather than let them leave


We want to burn them?
Where do people come up with these stupid conclusions
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Oct 18 2023 12:42pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 18 2023 11:40am)
We want to burn them?
Where do people come up with these stupid conclusions


They're empty-brained North American leftists who swallow Hamas propaganda for breakfast every day

Trust me I know these people, there is nothing going on in their brains, they believe whatever their depraved corner of the internet tells them to believe.
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Oct 18 2023 12:46pm
Quote (El1te @ 18 Oct 2023 20:40)
Yup all this land which rightfully belongs to Israel will be reclaimed in the near future

If Jordan and Lebanon continue to undermine Israel they'll have big chunks taken out of them quite soon


When i see these palestinians and middle east israeli, it is pretty clear they are some kind of blood brothers. U.S are largely involved in the following:

Personally, and I am not Jew nor Muslim, but i think this whole land is cursed and will probably be the location of a nuclear or related terrible holocaust in the next decades because i doubt people change their attitude.

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