Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Nov 14 2018 08:14pm)

I don't get it, you think that everyone that uses this site wastes copious amounts of time posting? Also that they have multiple accounts to hide said fact? For what reason would I do this? Do you have a ton of accounts you post with? The projection is something fierce.

Quote (Beowulf @ Nov 15 2018 03:16am)

No, I think rands that come into pard bringing up post counts irrelevantly are multis

add in the Trump/conservative nut hugging and we are sitting about 95% likely that I am correct

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 14 2018 09:29pm)

I never said that everyone who supports Trump is a successful, decent or likable human being. In a country with a two-party system, where one has to have the support of (almost) half the country to get to the white house, every president will have assholes and losers among his supporters. All candidates are supported by some successful and by some unsuccessful people.





Feel free to call me an arrogant, elitist, privileged prick for the following..... but imho this "at least half of the population" who cant even get something basic like that done should not hold positions of federal power, should not be congresspeople.

I want people with a working-class background and/or people who grew up poor to be represented in congress, dont get me wrong. But I want those folks who were born poor and then managed to pull themselves out of poverty by their own efforts to be the ones representing these segments of society.

There is absolutely no shame in being born poor or underprivileged. But why the hell should we expect someone who wasnt even able to improve his own little life to be able to improve our society, to improve the entire country?

Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 14 2018 11:51pm)

Would this logic also apply to the orange man with multiple bankruptcies?

Quote (Tuna_BeIIy @ Nov 14 2018 09:51pm)

6 businesses out of 500 failed, impeach now orange man bad

Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 15 2018 12:22am)

The most important ones with the capability of downing the rest of the empire if he hadn't been bailed out.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 15 Nov 2018 04:13)

Or a victim of circumstance? Or live in an expensive part of the country?

Irresponsibility can be the cause, but there are far more people in that situation at no fault of their own, even with a decent career behind them.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 14 2018 10:05pm)

Kids dont fall down from heaven, their parents are always responsible for having them. If, with three kids, someone's career and living circumstances dont allow to build up savings which cover even a single month without pay, then this family should never have had the third child because the apparently cant afford it.

Having to hang on without pay for one or two months can so easily happen for the most random of reasons. Not even having enough financial buffer for something like that is irresponsible, and particularly so if kids are involved.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 15 Nov 2018 05:10)

You live in Germany right?

Where an accident or medical problem doesn't bankrupt you over healthcare bills?

Life comes, and sometimes it comes hard. The ability to immediately uproot your family isn't a predictor of if somebody is good enough to be a representative.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 14 2018 10:25pm)

True, medical bills are an exception to what I described. Ill give you that. But I dont see any other circumstances where what I wrote would be wrong:
"if you wouldnt have any financial buffer anymore even under regular circumstances with x+1 kids, then you should stay at x kids."