Quote (fender @ Nov 12 2018 02:49pm)
SNIPPY proven a liar again. SAD!
at least according to your standard that is...
concerning your latest volume of flimsy excuses i can just say this is not convincing at all. had you asked a general rhetorical question like 'who do you assume commits more crime?' or something along those lines, sure. but you were very specific, asking about 'percentages' concerning violent gun crimes, and then again about 'percentages' of violent crime committed with illegally obtained guns. that clearly suggests you had concrete data to back up what you were implying, which turned out to be not true at all. others just accepting those kinds of narratives unchallenged does not prove what you think it does, but i'm not as insecure about my intelligence as you apparently are, so whatever...
also, you repeatedly insist that it's on democrats to find a solution for the gun problem because of your unsupported assumption, completely ignoring the fact that there are plenty of republicans who are also part of the problem. no matter how often you cry 'strawman' when i expose this moronic premise, this is such a basic logical fail and such an obvious disconnect from political reality and policy making that it almost hurts...
the simple (and actually supported by FACTS) truth is that most politicians (especially republicans) are bribed by gun lobbyists - that's why they oppose solutions, not because they fear they could accidentally make the world a better place for voters of the other party...
i was going to bold the strawmans but when i got to the end i realized there wasn't really a distinction.
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you repeatedly insist that it's on democrats to find a solution for the gun problem because of your unsupported assumption
no i didn't. i stated that democrats having most of the illegal gun crime leads republicans to not want to have the talk. the solutions are already figured out, they have been for decades. i implied it was up to democrats to acknowledge this, in order to get more people to have "the talk".
i see you confused what i meant as democratic and republican voters as politicians, also.
its really just all strawmans. and
i'm pro-gun control, and willing to have "the talk". i just tried to explain why some aren't. and you spun like a top for like 10 replies now. my entire post was a simple point about one cause of the political division on this one issue, you've been strawmanning me ever since with the policy, implications, stats, etc that i didn't even make mention of. no surprise. you use generalities when it suits you then snivel when others do it.
This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 12 2018 02:59pm