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Feb 17 2020 02:51am
...to the tune of: Folsom Prison Blues by Johnny Cash


I hear that Trump train rollin,
It's comin' round the bend,
And Dems ain't seen a victory,
Since I don't know when.

Well, I'm stuck in lefty prison,
where no one has a clue,
And that Trump train keeps a rollin',
Wins 2020, too.



When I was just a baby,
my momma told me son,
always vote conservative,
and always play with guns.

But I voted for a Demo,
just to have some fun,
When I hear that whistle blowin'
I know those Dems are done.



I bet there's rich folks votin',
for those evil democrats,
they're probably SJW,
and most of them are fat.

Well I knew we had it comin'
I know we can't be free,
Cause Donald Trump is POTUS,
and that's what tortures me.



Well, if they free me from this prison,
And that Trump train is on time,
I know that Trump will keep all of,
those democrats in line.

Cause Trump has told Americans,
He'd make us great again,
And that's the kind of attitude,
That helps the Donald win.

[Steel guitar and harmonica finish]

This post was edited by Ghot on Feb 17 2020 02:54am
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Feb 17 2020 03:17am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 17 Feb 2020 09:34)
Compares dems booing at a primary debate to republicans fawning over a trump rally with no opponents present..
Top reporting.


Did you also read the other 10 paragraphs of the article where she talks about the vitriolic cancel and outrage culture on the left, and how friendly and open for debate the people at the Trump rally were in comparison?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 17 2020 03:17am
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Feb 17 2020 04:18am
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"i've been a black republican all my life, and you won't believe what happened to me after trump took over the party": http://stor.rand.com/black-rep-race-noose-chant-texas-f454tot4aff

no totally, the cultists that repeatedly beat up protesters and threaten media at trump events, the people that cheer for authoritaran policies and the persecution of political rivals, in reality they are the good ones - because of 'cancel culture', and this one article says so. after all it's a 'life-long democrat' who says so.
my god, you guys are so gullible whenever something fits your narrative, that's why there's so many grifters on the right (shapiro, molyneux, crowder, peterson, candace, tomi, rubin...) who say the dumbest and most ignorant shit, but still make a fortune off idiots who need some kind of 'justification' for their terrible views on social issues...



This post was edited by fender on Feb 17 2020 04:21am
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Feb 17 2020 04:38am
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"i've been a black republican all my life, and you won't believe what happened to me after trump took over the party": http://stor.rand.com/black-rep-race-noose-chant-texas-f454tot4aff

no totally, the cultists that repeatedly beat up protesters and threaten media at trump events, the people that cheer for authoritaran policies and the persecution of political rivals, in reality they are the good ones - because of 'cancel culture', and this one article says so. after all it's a 'life-long democrat' who says so.
my god, you guys are so gullible whenever something fits your narrative, that's why there's so many grifters on the right (shapiro, molyneux, crowder, peterson, candace, tomi, rubin...) who say the dumbest and most ignorant shit, but still make a fortune off idiots who need some kind of 'justification' for their terrible views on social issues...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cas2wXZz1PE


Has it ever come to your mind that people might be sharing stories and case reports without intending to imply that this singular story/case is representative of the entirety of the movement or every corner of the country?
Has it ever occurred to you that such stories might be worthwhile for giving a different, perhaps unexpected perspective onto a phenomenom, even without being broadly generalizable?

Specifically, in the case here, we have a woman who is white, from a rural state, likes free speech, beer and knitting. All of those factors suggest that she might be more prone to breaking with her Democratic past and more responsive to 'Trumpism' than, say, a black man from Mississippi or a progressive activist from San Francisco. So what? Does her experience and opinion not count anymore just because others disagree?

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Has it ever come to your mind that people might be sharing stories and case reports without intending to imply that this singular story/case is representative of the entirety of the movement or every corner of the country?
Has it ever occurred to you that such stories might be worthwhile for giving a different, perhaps unexpected perspective onto a phenomenom, even without being broadly generalizable?

Specifically, in the case here, we have a woman who is white, from a rural state, likes free speech, beer and knitting. All of those factors suggest that she might be more prone to breaking with her Democratic past and more responsive to 'Trumpism' than, say, a black man from Mississippi or a progressive activist from San Francisco. So what? Does her experience and opinion not count anymore just because others disagree?


who says her experience doesn't count? that's exactly how you come to your idiotic conclusions about 'cancel culture': strawmanning the fuck out of people in order to arrive at the cartoonish image that aforementioned grifters have successfully sold you regarding 'the left'.
reminding people of the bigger picture is not the same as invalidating individual experiences. i mean, it's rather obvious why this article appealed to you, and why you posted it here, i'm just pointing out that having a cordial interaction with someone who doesn't challenge your views doesn't make you a good person.

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Feb 17 2020 05:09pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 16 2020 04:21pm)
https://files.catbox.moe/pzr2jn.mp4


I agree with Tim Alberta on this one:

https://twitter.com/TimAlberta/status/1229153736716623876
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Feb 17 2020 05:31pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 14 2020 11:37pm)
What a delusional take. Anyone could see from 10 miles away that this lawywer was a sleazy scumbag, yet CNN lionized him and projected their hopes onto him that "a white knight in a shining armor shall emerge and slay the big bad dragon (Trump)".

Avenatti was giving Trump fire, and for this reason alone, CNN threw all caution, reason and impartiality into the wind and jumped on the bandwagon of an obvious bad guy. It is 100% justified to turn this into an indictment of CNN. The fact that Trump is himself a horrible person doesnt change any of that.


I try to remain open-minded about media criticism, and this Avenatti thing even has people like Sam Stein admitting he was wrong, but it makes zero sense to me.

Trump banged a porn star years ago while his wife was at home with his newborn son, and covered it up illegally during the campaign with Michael Cohen. The story was constantly evolving throughout the time Avenatti was on television, so he was put on to comment on developments. He was good on tv, he attracted viewers, much like Trump did, so CNN and others ran with it.

Now he's a convicted criminal... and everybody is pretending the mainstream media should've instinctively known that?

People are so desperate to criticize the media that they latch onto nonsense like this. It's silly outrage culture stuff.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 14 2020 11:39pm)
Lawyer is whatever.

What’s concerning is there’s so many dumb people out there that think cnn is reputable. They are the tmz of news. Between making this guy into a hero and destroying a kids life only to get sued and lose millions is enough for a normal person to stop consuming that garbage.


CNN is reputable. They have scoops from time to time and provide decent political coverage while even including the Trump cult perspective when they can. They aren't great, but by my standards, and even your standards, a great political show wouldn't draw viewers. So it seems silly to me to attack a particular infotainment network.... go meta and become a commie.

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I try to remain open-minded about media criticism, and this Avenatti thing even has people like Sam Stein admitting he was wrong, but it makes zero sense to me.

Trump banged a porn star years ago while his wife was at home with his newborn son, and covered it up illegally during the campaign with Michael Cohen. The story was constantly evolving throughout the time Avenatti was on television, so he was put on to comment on developments. He was good on tv, he attracted viewers, much like Trump did, so CNN and others ran with it.

Now he's a convicted criminal... and everybody is pretending the mainstream media should've instinctively known that?

People are so desperate to criticize the media that they latch onto nonsense like this. It's silly outrage culture stuff.



CNN is reputable.
They have scoops from time to time and provide decent political coverage while even including the Trump cult perspective when they can. They aren't great, but by my standards, and even your standards, a great political show wouldn't draw viewers. So it seems silly to me to attack a particular infotainment network.... go meta and become a commie.


No matter how many blunders they go through you're the only one that consistently defends them, it's like i'm insulting your mom or something lol.

They are a terrible outlet. You watch and defend them because they confirm your bias of the world. Even when their reporting is proven biased and misleading you vigorously defend them because to have your point of view shattered is threatening. I mean i get it, really, but a steady diet of that shit really warps your view of the objective world.

If you want half decent news reporting go with Reuters, WSJ, business/market leaning outlets like The Economist, Bloomberg, etc. Or continue with CNN and have Trump be the center of your universe for another 4 years and look like an idiot when trying to have an informed conversation.
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Feb 17 2020 07:02pm
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No matter how many blunders they go through you're the only one that consistently defends them, it's like i'm insulting your mom or something lol.

They are a terrible outlet. You watch and defend them because they confirm your bias of the world. Even when their reporting is proven biased and misleading you vigorously defend them because to have your point of view shattered is threatening. I mean i get it, really, but a steady diet of that shit really warps your view of the objective world.

If you want half decent news reporting go with Reuters, WSJ, business/market leaning outlets like The Economist, Bloomberg, etc. Or continue with CNN and have Trump be the center of your universe for another 4 years and look like an idiot when trying to have an informed conversation.


is there actual evidence that their reporting has gotten worse, that their rate of actual 'blunders' has increased, or is it just the hyperfocus of you cultists, trying to make a massive deal out of the smallest mistake, in order to perpetuate your idiotic 'fake news' narrative? i mean, let's be real here: that whole thing started because your emperor is a thin skinned and insecure authoritarian, who can't deal with criticism and bad press, and therefore wants to delegitimise and silence those who dare to report on his frequent and significant shortcomings...

i mean, i don't even like CNN (mainly because of their establishment bias and their cheering for wars), but unlike trump or fox news for example, they still report facts and hold the truth in high regard - and if they mess up, they correct that.

it's really mindblowing that people, who literally never challenge ANY of trump's countless brazen lies, and probably follow news outlets with a far worse track record than CNN or MSNBC, will still unironically perpetuate that silly narrative.
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Feb 17 2020 07:21pm
So did avenatti provide clearly false information or something? Because "he was found later to be bad so fuck his legacy" is the exact thing I see conservatives get really mad about.
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