Initially I asked you a yes or a no question you then proceeded to answer with a confusing contradiction and never elaborated further.

You certainly did appeal to fiction. You listed a bunch of real places that are mentioned in the bible and presumed the rest of the bible is true.
I pointed out the flaw in your thinking. Provided you with examples and asked you a simple question do real elements in a story justify the supernatural ones? You dodged

When I say a story I mean any story such as the one in the bible or a story in Harry Potter. The dictionary definition of a story.

Supernatural is a phenomenon thought to be beyond the laws of nature. Such a phenomenon is considered indistinguishable between imaginary or natural phenomena that isnt understood yet.

Just because you classify something supernatural doesn't automatically make it true. If you believe gods and deities exist in imagination then I agree. This is the entire point of this thread.
Thats why I listed Spiderman in my example, he is a supernatural/imaginary being who is placed in a real place (New York). Peter Parker is a real name does that automatically mean he can shoot webs from his hands (supernatural act)? Just because some guy named Elijah mentioned in the bible does that mean he can resurrect people from the dead or ride in a chariot of fire into heaven (supernatural act and place)?

Yes. I understand what you are saying. Thanks for the reply.
It's important not to persecute atheists but rather try and grasp their train of thought so you can gain more wisdom and experience yourself.
Christians often aspire for a certain lifestyle that atheists don't in order to survive and live a fulfilling life. The atheist often reminds us or helps guide us on that path. So I don't mind what they say or do in response it doesn't bother me but rather strengthens me.
If this conversation gets to the stage it's draining me instead I'll pull out. But for now it's all good.

Sigh... another dishonest dodger taking advice from an intentional grifter.

Do non magical elements justify the supernatural ones?

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=689645222

thats a mighty faith

Let's talk about how people's lives completely changes after becoming a Christian. Let's look at the before and after. I will even give you a Use Case.

Imagine that someone was an alcoholic and there is everything that comes from that. They are bound to alcohol and all the destructiveness that comes with it. They're not free, they are imprisoned. All hope was lost.

Then one day Christ intervened and came into their life to set them free from alcoholism. When they became free then they turned their life around. You see, this person may or may not have shared this with you already. Do you know anyone who may have been in this situation?

The power of the Gospel is that it transforms lives and sets people free from the path of destruction. Humans cannot do that on their own, they need that divine intervention that can only come from God.

So where has the Bible demonstrated its power and proven to be true? In the lives of all of us, who once walked the Earth, who walks the Earth today and will walk the Earth tomorrow. I hope that one day the Holy Spirit comes down on you and you undergo that renewed life that so many of us have experienced first hand.

Take the time to listen and learn about how the Word has transformed so many lives.

In fact it is so powerful that some people cannot fathom it so they turn hostile. Then those people then go and say things like:



Can you believe that someone would openly state their disdain for Christians and that their next door neighbour shouldn't receive care just because they are Christian? I mean, how much hate and unresolved issues from the childhood past must that person be going through?

It's almost like they need Jesus to enter and take control of their lives before it is too late.

Straight into avoiding and changing the subject entirely. Looks like you have no interest being honest and providing proof.

Personal testimonies are not reliable let me prove it to you. There are 2 people one is a christian and another is hindu. They both suffer from alcoholism. They both pray to their respective gods. Both get cured.
Each of them claims their god cured them. Does it mean both of those gods/deities exist and their prayer directly resulted in them getting better?

Be honest do you accept Krishna or the elephant god Ganesha to be real deities because of those claims?

Ephesians 2:8-9 TPT
[8] For by grace you have been saved by faith. Nothing you did could ever earn this salvation, for it was the love gift from God that brought us to Christ! [9] So no one will ever be able to boast, for salvation is never a reward for good works or human striving.

you invented the hindu part of the story. ('atheist magic aka lying)

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Can we talk about my cousin, who when exposed to Christianity as a teenager, then became very afraid of being tortured for eternity if she did something wrong.



What kind of psychopathic bully of a god would want a 12 year old to be afraid of being sadistically tortured?

So when other religions claim the same thing its lying when christians do it its called truth got it.

When christians do bad thing its not bad its good or it doesn't count. When other religions do bad things its considered bad and does count.

Dictionary is also wrong when feelings get hurt or when it's inconvenient.

What else did I miss?