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Oct 18 2023 08:54am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 18 2023 09:49am)
+2 Well said was wondering what you think are the root causes for being in the Middle East in the first place? I was born in 1990 and obviously aware of 9/11 being a major catalyst but I know little about Iran contra and the Oil embargo and other Middle Eastern affairs we've involved ourselves in. I have friends who served in Iraq/Afghanistan and both said they spent a lot of time..

1) Securing Oil refineries & Opium fields.
2) Building large military installations to have a permanent presence in the Middle East.
3) ?
4) ?
5) ?

Was curious if the US government/ Military industrial Complex had other reasons for being there.

For example I think the US leaving behind all that military equipment in Afghanistan was for a multitude of reasons but mainly to create a "vacuum of power" where some of the worst people got ahold of that equipment and used it for their own means. What's your take you seem well read in this

TIA


Why we're in the middle east at all starts and ends with "oil". the region has very little to offer outside of oil, and for decades being there is an attempt to use their oil to preserve US oil reserves.

the same goes for the west's presense in many places, we colonize to exploit them as a single output economy. we've got cobalt countries, diamond/gold countries, rubber countries, palm oil countries, etc. we find what they have, we pay them pennies to resell it for dollars.
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Oct 18 2023 09:03am
New York Times took the award for biting down on the disinformation hook line and sinker;



The picture under that headline is not from the hospital site, but immediately leads any reader to assume the hospital was blown to smithereens. Their lede says affirmatively that 500+ are dead without adding any disclaimer of inaccuracy like 'Palestinians say', and on their online version it directly blamed Israel and called it an Israeli airstrike and claimed it killed 500 with no weasel words at all.
So in reality we're looking at an Islamic Jihad rocket misfiring and killing what's most likely 'dozens' of people in a parking lot outside a hospital without seriously damaging the hospital itself, when it was intended to kill many Jews in Haifa. While in the NYT alternate facts universe, it was a zionist airstrike against innocent civilians 'sheltering at the hospital' which was reduced to rubble with a number of casualties expected to rise above 500.
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Oct 18 2023 09:16am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 18 2023 10:03am)
New York Times took the award for biting down on the disinformation hook line and sinker;

https://i.imgur.com/oEp5o6R.jpg

The picture under that headline is not from the hospital site, but immediately leads any reader to assume the hospital was blown to smithereens. Their lede says affirmatively that 500+ are dead without adding any disclaimer of inaccuracy like 'Palestinians say', and on their online version it directly blamed Israel and called it an Israeli airstrike and claimed it killed 500 with no weasel words at all.
So in reality we're looking at an Islamic Jihad rocket misfiring and killing what's most likely 'dozens' of people in a parking lot outside a hospital without seriously damaging the hospital itself, when it was intended to kill many Jews in Haifa. While in the NYT alternate facts universe, it was a zionist airstrike against innocent civilians 'sheltering at the hospital' which was reduced to rubble with a number of casualties expected to rise above 500.


and prepare for the whatabout-whataboutism. "we got mad u said babies were beheaded, when only a few got beheaded and the rest simply got murdered and burned to ash, that's just like this, right, right right, RIGHT!?!?!?!".

Hamas reports a misfire as Israel's bomb, essentially a false flag, and people eat it up uncritically because "israel gonna israel". but islamic jihadist's do islamic jihadi things and they can't believe it.
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Oct 18 2023 09:21am
Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Oct 2023 09:54)
Why we're in the middle east at all starts and ends with "oil". the region has very little to offer outside of oil, and for decades being there is an attempt to use their oil to preserve US oil reserves.

the same goes for the west's presense in many places, we colonize to exploit them as a single output economy. we've got cobalt countries, diamond/gold countries, rubber countries, palm oil countries, etc. we find what they have, we pay them pennies to resell it for dollars.


I figured as much what's your opinion on our own oil reserves in Alaska and other places.

I've been told and obviously no one truly knows but that we have a large amount of "oil" beneath our own soil but that the long term strategic plan was to suck all these other countries dry of resources then when we need them most we have plenty here.

I watched a few documentaries on "Peak Oil" and sometimes I wonder if the OPEC nations just lie about how much oil they really have sort of in the same sense that the two major diamond mining companies going back 100 years have held a monopoly on the price of "diamonds"

Not sure if it's a conspiracy or has some truth to it but I've seen reports that China has 99% of certain minerals/resources that every country needs. It sort of goes a long with the whole "NWO" thing where an elite group has given exclusive mining rights just to China but doesn't allow other countries to do the same. I connect it to the fact China/Saudia Arabia own a lot of land on our own soil but we don't own shit in theirs. China allowed to do whatever it wants but the United States has to go "full electric" by 2030 which is impossible like you know. No energy comes close to oil in terms of supporting the 1st world.

I saw in California all the Peterbilt trucks that can go 2000 miles on a single trip our now being forced to go electric and the CEO said the charge lasts 300 miles and that trucks will have to stop 6 times along their route to = what oil does. He said it was like going back 60 years in terms of effieceny all in the name of "going green". Other countries can burn whatever the hell they want (namely China/India) and no check and balances. I understand the US uses more energy then any country but doesn't that effect our national security in the long run?

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Oct 18 2023 09:39am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 18 2023 08:03am)
New York Times took the award for biting down on the disinformation hook line and sinker;

https://i.imgur.com/oEp5o6R.jpg

The picture under that headline is not from the hospital site, but immediately leads any reader to assume the hospital was blown to smithereens. Their lede says affirmatively that 500+ are dead without adding any disclaimer of inaccuracy like 'Palestinians say', and on their online version it directly blamed Israel and called it an Israeli airstrike and claimed it killed 500 with no weasel words at all.
So in reality we're looking at an Islamic Jihad rocket misfiring and killing what's most likely 'dozens' of people in a parking lot outside a hospital without seriously damaging the hospital itself, when it was intended to kill many Jews in Haifa. While in the NYT alternate facts universe, it was a zionist airstrike against innocent civilians 'sheltering at the hospital' which was reduced to rubble with a number of casualties expected to rise above 500.


It's clear to see who these leftist news outlets support by spreading Hamas propaganda
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Oct 18 2023 09:42am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 18 2023 10:21am)
I figured as much what's your opinion on our own oil reserves in Alaska and other places.

I've been told and obviously no one truly knows but that we have a large amount of "oil" beneath our own soil but that the long term strategic plan was to suck all these other countries dry of resources then when we need them most we have plenty here.

I watched a few documentaries on "Peak Oil" and sometimes I wonder if the OPEC nations just lie about how much oil they really have sort of in the same sense that the two major diamond mining companies going back 100 years have held a monopoly on the price of "diamonds"

Not sure if it's a conspiracy or has some truth to it but I've seen reports that China has 99% of certain minerals/resources that every country needs. It sort of goes a long with the whole "NWO" thing where an elite group has given exclusive mining rights just to China but doesn't allow other countries to do the same. I connect it to the fact China/Saudia Arabia own a lot of land on our own soil but we don't own shit in theirs. China allowed to do whatever it wants but the United States has to go "full electric" by 2030 which is impossible like you know. No energy comes close to oil in terms of supporting the 1st world.

I saw in California all the Peterbilt trucks that can go 2000 miles on a single trip our now being forced to go electric and the CEO said the charge lasts 300 miles and that trucks will have to stop 6 times along their route to = what oil does. He said it was like going back 60 years in terms of effieceny all in the name of "going green". Other countries can burn whatever the hell they want (namely China/India) and no check and balances. I understand the US uses more energy then any country but doesn't that effect our national security in the long run?

TIA


IDK if its as much NWO or conspiracy level, its far simpler. one day the world runs out, and before that there's a phase of shortages as supply dwindles. when that happens who controls the last of the oil is in a very powerful position. obviously it serves all of the west for that group to be the US, and not OPEC, Russia, Venezuala, etc. So we're doing 2 things, farming other places for their oil on the market while barrel price is comparatively low AND lowering demand via laws that push for electronic vehicles and increased fuel efficiency as well as acceptance of ethanol.

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Quote (Tommyvv @ Oct 18 2023 01:41am)
Jordan and Egypt refuse to shelter Palestinian refugee. These coin licking pigs.

The great hope: Libanon Hezbollah
Fight fire with fire.
Step1: Sink USA warmachine aircraft carrier


go ahead and try to try to attack a US carrier strike group lmao

Seriously go do it.. I'd love to see Lebanon wiped off the map, y'all are primitive goat fuckers

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Oct 18 2023 09:43am
Hospital “Barzilai” in Ashkelon was targeted 4 times by Hamas.. and the world is silent.
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Oct 18 2023 10:01am
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Hospital “Barzilai” in Ashkelon was targeted 4 times by Hamas.. and the world is silent.


honest question, can Hamas even aim their rockets?
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Oct 18 2023 10:05am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 18 2023 07:01pm)
honest question, can Hamas even aim their rockets?


Towards a general direction I believe.
Which actually makes it worst.. at least we know what we are hitting
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