you're out of your league donny

Here's the deal. Ya don't need "studies"... ya need either body count or verifiable missing bodies. No studying involved.
What's next, a study of how many states are in the United States? :/


/e Do you folks actually believe these crap articles that show up in the wild. I mean you do "think" about what you're reading, right?

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 13 2018 09:11pm

don't need one, according to obama there are 57

So according to their study, they found no significantly increased mortality rate in the census scenario for the months of the hurricane- just the normal season fluctuation, dipping down a bit if anything.
Their entire projection of 'increased mortality' comes from adjusting the population of the island downwards according to the displacement scenario.
This somehow transfers the cause of death to the hurricane, even if the people were simply elderly (77%+) who were dying anyway and chose not to leave the island in their last years.

So lets apply this same logic to a hypothetical scenario
Say we have the country of Elbonia, with 100,000 residents. The Elbonians are pseudoimmortals who cannot die before the age of 75, at which point they simply poof into dust. Every year 5,000 such Elbonians poof into dust, thereby having a death rate of 5% per year. And exact same birth rate. Yeah they age fast. Now lets say that in 2020, a Typhoon strikes the landlocked country of Elbonia. 0 people die as a direct result, because they're immortal. But 20,000 Elbonian residents of young age choose to voluntary leave Elbonia for Albania and live there thanks to the devastation. Now the population of Elbonia is 80,000, and 5,000 people die. The death rate has now 'jumped' to 6.25%, even though nobody extra died, people who weren't going to die left the shithole. The government of Elbonia then posts on social media about how thanks to the jump in death rate, they can estimate that 1000 excess Elbonians died in the Typhoon. Even though nobody died, not as a result of it or indirectly.

this

well, the point is that the authorities and infrastructure on puerto rico were in shambles before the island got savaged by two major hurricanes in a row. even if this would indeed have caused a big loss of lives, it would be no surprise. everybody with more than 2 brain cells understands that.
nitpicking about the actual numbers and how they were calculated is just a distraction that will go nowhere because no ordinary voter really cares. liberal partisans will treat all this as further confirmation for their unfavorable view of trump. conservative partisans will treat this as further confirmation for the "trump vs unfair fake news media"-narrative. moderates and swing voters wont care.

oh, and lets not pretend like the typical trump voter cares about deaths on Puerto Rico anyway. you claim that this is a losing narrative that wont end well for trump. imho, this wont make a dent in trumps approval with republicans and republican-leaning voters.



would you please stop it already? facts, math and stats are inherently racist and discriminatory and therefore shouldnt be considered. I repeat: R-A-C-I-S-T!!!!!!11111oneoneeleven

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 14 2018 01:23am

Lol

another point I noticed- their map of "marginal death rate per area" showed clusters of supposedly increased mortality around the airports and ports, but the negligible or 0-10% estimates in the most remote areas of the island in the mountains. So even though their hypothesis is that lack of access to medical care / power / supplies increased mortality, they show San Juan itself as being in the maximum 28%+ increased mortality range. San Juan. The place where humanitarian aid was piling up, overflowing with relief workers, with power back on and hospitals staffed. A place where the biggest issue was finding drivers and clearing roads so they could get the help out of San Juan and to the rest of the island.

The same San Juan that held disproportionately young and health populations of people who would be inclined to move to Florida in the aftermath of the Hurricane.

Well that really sends the noggin joggin now doesn't it?



This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 14 2018 06:40am

The media really is the enemy of the American people

Unaccountable media monopolies have become a threat to free Democracy

"Brainwashed! Hitler!" LMAO