What's even more retarded about the whole dreadlocks thing is that nobody can really claim it. Humans from all parts of the globe have worn dreadlocks and the earliest found artwork of dreads originate from Southeastern Europe.



I looked this story up and it comes across as highly suspicious and phony. Seems like more woe-is-brown-people porn for people who want to believe American law and border enforcement is the second coming of Nazi Germany.

This post was edited by CarsV on Nov 6 2018 01:01pm

i dont support people "owning" aspects of culture, and i'm against the idea of cultural appropriation by-and-large, BUT blacks have a point. and the hippies bringing up vikings dont have much of a point. the white kids with dread locks are directly emulating rasta culture, which is unarguably black. If they dressed in traditional Nordic clothes instead of a Bob Marley tee-shirt they'd have a more valid argument. But blacks unarguably popularized dreadlocks in the modern age, and whites wearing dreadlocks almost unanimously emulate blacks, and not the historical figures they bring up as counter points.

that said, i find dogging whites for wearing dreadlocks to be incredibly stupid and the concept of cultural appropriation to be antithetical to progress for minorities.

Did my share of raving and techno in the late 90s and 00s and met some white people with dreads who didn't have a clue what rasta culture is. If I recall, one of them got their hair idea from a Red Hot Chili Peppers music video.

Speaking of Vikings, fun fact about them. When Vikings began to show up on European and British shores, they were remarkably well-kempt and practiced, for its day, good hygiene. This angered the local men as their women found Viking men attractive. The popular perception that Scandinavian Vikings were a bunch of raggedy, unwashed looking hippies is as inaccurate as the popularized horned helmets.

This post was edited by CarsV on Nov 6 2018 01:16pm

well, the red hot chilli peppers were undoubtedly emulating rasta culture, it's rampant in SoCal. but that's the reason i dont support enforcing cultural appropriation, its incredibly hard to differentiate between problematic appropriation and just plain old cultural spread. but, overall, if you're claiming someone in the rave scene didn't know who Bob marley is i'd have to call bs,

funny you should mention that story about the vikings, illustrates how perspective works. to the Muslim world the vikings were dirty savages, and to the Brits (who were more dirty) they were cleanly. the hippies themselves tho reference viking dreadlocks, the famous video of the white kid on a college campus getting yelled at by a black chick for example. (edit, actually he references egyptians, i'd need to dig for the one i'm thinking of)



This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 6 2018 01:32pm

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/high-school-football-players-charged-raping-teammates-broomstick-hazing-ritual-032400579.html

they made a TV show that was basically this plot. and i laughed at the time thinking how unrealistic it was. Hazing to me in reality is a lot of punches on the side of the arm and the occasional head in a toilet, with a lot of "you carry my stuff to the bus" when it comes to sports. Actual broomstick rape, god damn.

Yeah, i played football since I was 5 and all the way through college. Nothing remotely close to this ever happened. You'd get some minor hazing/initiation stuff but i was carry my pads, last to eat at training tables, last for jersey numbers, etc.

Some kids are fucked up. 15 is old enough to know that shit is unacceptable - charge and convict them.

yup, none of this "boys will be boys" nonsense. charge, convict, and expel them. Then put them on the sex offender registry for life. 15 isn't "oh broom fucking a kid is bad?" age, frankly i dont think that age really exists. when a child is young enough to have that lack of culpability they also aren't generally mature enough to even know to do that.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 8 2018 10:36am

i'm not sure why the left can't make a point most days without some hyperbolic historical revisionism. i mean, the right was kinda the same with the whole "alex jones went down so we're all in danger" nonsense. but this "trump is literally hitler" mentality from the left really is boring and undercuts their credibility. When you're willing to ride or die on a guy like Acosta you're radicalizing yourself in the same way the right rode with Jones. obviously Jones is worse, but the effect is the same.

there was a time when the industry distanced itself from sensationalized reporting, and i mean like 5 or 6 years ago. now its all partisan rather than looking at the context of who you're supporting.

this woman should be ashamed of herself, he lessens her own struggle and the struggle of people in authoritarian regimes all over the world by using this cheap ploy to get likes.

They do it because the media, hollywood, and academia all empower then. They can get away with it.

They also dont see foundational principles as important. Their whole philosophy is based on outer locus of control with a means to and end philosophy. They believe that narratives are what create the truth instead of the other way around.

They also take a feminine approach to survival. They feel that they have been slighted and use that as an excuse to abandon honor.

media, sure. hollywood, yes. academia tho, meh. History academia has been pretty vocal on historical revisionism in the media during Trump's presidency. And history has been fairly resistant to post modernism compared to many other fields. the closest i've seen are some fringe outliers that are fake historians and just post modern implants into the field, and the "best president" surveys they give historians which are hot trash. but i've seen a lot of "wait a second" type posts from historians, which is nice.