The fuck are you talking about? I'm simply stating a point here.

The right:

It's illegal to make me undergo a background check to purchase a firearm
Registering firearms is illegal

Also the right:

Voters have to register but only this specific way
You have to have ID

I'm simply showing you that the logic does not stand. I think ID's should be required. I know for a fact that the voter ID laws that have been implemented were not simply, "voter must show ID" but a plethora of bullshit. WHICH IS WHY MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN STRUCK DOWN IN COURT.

This fucking guy

This is ridiculous at this point. People start linking to BS posted on some ultra-right wing site which is riddled with disinformation and then everyone has to investigate every stupid claim to placate people about the validity of the election.

No one puts stock in your opinion old man. We tolerate you because we have to but most of us look forward to the day heart disease takes you

or this bet.

Now you're going full retard. The most common term for what you're describing is called a poll "Challenger" and the rules vary by state as far as what they can do. But in those cases, they are allowed to do far more than simply watch to insure that mass numbers of ballots aren't being dropped in the trash, that people's votes are actually being written down. They aren't watching from outside the glass. They're allowed in the counting rooms themselves, and depending on the state, can challenge individual ballots' eligibility.

You've always been able to maintain a presence at a polling place with your cell phone (or old video camcorder) and record the vote counting, assuming you are not in any way impeding the voting (or counting) process. Indeed, many counties have security cameras livestreaming their counts as a way to insure no fraud is occurring.

Whatever it is you *think* you know, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with election laws before spouting it out.

Insane bob needs to take his meds

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/29/politics/poll-watchers-monitors/index.html
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/02/michigan-poll-watchers-election-challengers-rules/6125955002/
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2020/11/02/pennsylvania-poll-watchers/
https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2020/10/15/what-poll-watchers-can-and-cannot-do-in-massachusetts

^ in case anyone wants to see what poll watchers can and can't do. Most states operate the same. Bob's going to be a pretentious fuck I can see.

Just curious, but at this point.... what do the protestors in Detroit want? Do they want a subset of people watching over every poll counter's shoulder or what is the intent?


This post was edited by umeshieee on Nov 5 2020 11:42am

The quality of this thread has gone downhill.

You're building a strawman. Nobody on the right has demanded that they have the right to forgo a NICS background check, NOR has anyone on the right demanded that anyone be able to purchase a firearm without an ID. The NRA was a primary proponent of the NICS background check system first being implemented.

Registering firearms is very different. That's putting you on a list where you can be targeted if somebody wants to go for a power grab, and has been deemed federally unacceptable, though for machineguns, flash suppressors, and a few other NFA items, you still have to pay a tax and register. But just as registering firearms is deemed "a bad thing" so to is "Vote registering" fought against by the right. If you wish to share who you vote for, that's your right, same as your ownership status. On the flipside, the specific votes you cast remain confidential, and are NOT registered. But just as with firearms, that fact that you voted, what your party status is, your name, address, and other information is kept. NICS checks will know forever that you got a background check, but nothing specific about your purchases. Same with the voting tally. They'll know forever you voted and where you lived and what your party was, but not what your specific vote was.

My logic stands just fine, and is consistent. You're just spewing bullshit, and flat out lying.



I'd have to double check the EC law in Michigan, but my guess is, whatever the law will allow. The least I've seen from any state regarding an actual appointed poll challenger is 1 from each party who's never been an election official. Yes, they can be there, view all the counters. And should any impropriety arise, depending on the state, they may be able to challenge the validity of the vote. Geniuses link to news articles that try to conflate your ability to record poll counter's with poll challengers is elementary at best.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 5 2020 11:45am